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This also allows new players to fight on their own skill level, and also provides more reliable data for balancing, since individual player skill would be less likely to skew performance
Though this is not relevant to the whole suggestion the issue comes down to moderation and how annoying it can get. For infantry mode it could make sense but it may not be the best if you want to see how it ends look at RUST. Not the best Fox Hole prox chat works because you paid for the game and getting banned would be a pain. WarThunder would have a lot of prox chat issues in moderation.
While yes, it would have a lot of issues that are strictly related to Prox Chat. However, without it, you get what War Thunder is. Where communication is nonexistent, and when you try to tell someone there is a tank around the corner, they don’t listen.
Those who don’t speak English can still understand enough words to get the idea->Tank->Corner/Around. So they don’t hesitate to drive forward to death.
That’s why, where I stand, for skill-based matchmaking to be a viable option, you need to somehow implement it.
An in-game translator for chat and Proximity Voice chat makes skill-based matchmaking truly viable. Otherwise, you will have a lot of people that the game system will assume are bad at the game or poor, and lower them into matches of said battle ranking, where seal clubbing will occur.
Other games provide the tools necessary to report people who abuse proximity voice chat, but even thenit’ss not all chat, so you cannmic-screameam and send everyone to the hospital.
It’s limited to that area next to you and the person nearby you.
Basically, Proximity Voice chat works hand in hand with skill-based matchmaking. Otherwise, it will be abused.
I am a level 27 and for last 10 matches i faced level 100 players and they completely make the game unenjoyable for me.
one of them had 150 days gameplay only for arcade air battles :(
SBMM is terrible outside of a competitive setting. It kills the fun in the long run. Instead of having a chill and fun experience, Its just gonna be a sweat fest.
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Its crazy how folks shoot down a good idea because they lack problem solving, creativity, and imagination to think of ways where a suggested system could be implemented in a positive manner.
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The one issue here is I leaned a lot from my failures in game by being beaten up on by higher tier players. You learn where they go on maps and how they do general engagements. You wont really get that knowledge from observations with skill based matchmaking. Or it will take a lot longer.
Especially with infantry mode on its way people who got on the test server will have more skills so its better if we mix them in with the noobs so all the noobs get a understanding from them.
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I totally agree. A skillbased matchmaking is necessary in the current state of the game. Since the game is so many years old, the skill gap between new players and veterans is insanly hugh and therefore it’s hard for new players to keep up and not be farmed by the more experienced players. I think the game would profit a lot if players have a more equally skilled opponents in other team, making the game more exciting if game are not over after 2 minutes and 1dls could be reduced as well.
after a while of thought i think best thing to do would be to segregate people below level 20 from the rest.
its not very much time at all before you pass L20 but its a buffer time so that new players arent instantly in the trial by fire of public lobbys.
if they squad up with someone higher they have to be in the L20-100 lobby ofc to stop smurf accounts letting people statpad at low tier harder than its already done
no SBMM at all, just a noob segretation.
secondary benefit, top tier players done lose several spots to noobs that bought the SU30MK
SBM should only be added as an option , a ranked system with rewards not something that is forced and better players must fighter the top 1% of 5 games so only if it toggleable if not I don’t want it
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There are tournaments already. Join the WT Esports Discord server and find a team if you want ranked matches. You also get very good rewards, even for placing “low” in the tournaments. They have tournaments multiple times every day.
There is 0 need for ranked matches in War Thunder itself.
If we look at a game like fornite for example we have 2 options actually 4 :ranked build , and ranked no build , normal build , normal no build
and guess what the normal ones still have 70% of players atleast SBM for war thunder would be the same everyone would not be playing it for more than a full week after they start gaining ranks and the game gets very sweaty many will go back to the normal version because of how simple it is ranks usually reset every major update for most games meaning every 2-3 months for war thunder your rank gets reset and rewards are given usally a rare title or if your very sweaty and good a rare skin (in war thunders case a vehicle) being totally optional and able to be ignored by people who don’t want to play it
I also don’t play eSports because when you do you get seal clubbed to the top of the leaderbord games which is def not my skill level rn
This is a completely useless comparison. Fortnite does not have Land, Sea and Air battles. Split between Arcade, Realistic, and Sim. Further split by Battle Ratings.
No, again, no. Just no. Go ahead and keep “yelling into the wind”. It isn’t going to happen.
Go play tournaments if you want ranked. Stop trying to ruin the game.
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whats that have to do with anything its a very succesful ranked system as WTM already has something like this you can only expect gajin once or is still considering adding it to the full game you will be yelling in the wind when it actually comes to game just like that discord server nobody expected fornite has eSports for free skins and ranked which I never play or want to play eSports because I don’t like it just because you (1 person btw) thinks it will ruin the game and will be useless doesn’t mean it cant or wont be added
it would give seal clubbers something to actually do instead and I meaning to the current player leadboard “but it will ruin wait times” if gajin implements it correctly it will probably look something like this : a option for ranked battles in the battle menu BR 9.0-14.7 for air and 9.0 to 12.7 for ground since alot of players at the very top don’t do much of anything doesn’t mean it wont be added and since when did gajin actually care what a poll does , premium , game mode , or updates gajin does what gajin wants and if they want RBMM then you can cry about it
One solution and to get the most out of low tier vehicles would be a low tier vehicle event. Could be fun for things like decals and decorations.
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At least you are honest about it unlike all the rationaliteers in here.
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As long as you fail to understand that player level says nothing about skill you won’t have any fun in war thunder.
Just watch this replay (prop Air RB match):
Gaijin Entertainment - Single Sign On
…and use the option “2” (=player view) of a level 27 player (JP F4U-1 premium) with the gamertag “CaSnerd”. He scored more or less effortlessly 5 kills in a full uptier (3.0 - 4.0 match) because he was not new to game and player level is irrelevant in a lot of cases.
Based on my experience (30k Air RB battles at prop BRs): He opened a 2nd or 3rd account, invested some money and bought 3 rather good premium aircraft (2 of them with very high SL/RP multipliers) and can leverage his experience advantage at will vs less experienced players - even as the experience is not reflected in his level. Based on how he played: he is an excellent player.
That is one of many examples i see daily - u see level 100 players doing plain stupid things and low level players playing way too mature for their levels…
And this shows also the weaknesses of any attempts to create a SBMM: as long as players can roam between ground, air and naval modes and different difficulties like AB, RB and SB - and BRs are set on average SL/RP income, premium bonus vs TT vehicles and the outcome of a 1 vs 1 being dependent on vehicle choices - and we have accounts like described.
Things get even worse during grinding events (F-16 XL) or BP challenges (like for me 30 battles in Italian planes) or for my teammates (20k mission score in BP vehicle) as they run in constant uptiers - and my SM 92 performs actually better in uptiers as enemies become less nimble and heavier at higher BRs - if we ignore the Yak-3s and A6Ms.😂
Have a good one!
Additional info for the match with the replay link, but imho off-topic:
As a vet player i noticed his flight pattern (he tried to drain my energy advantage - the correct way to play as his energy generation is way superior) early game and checked his excellent vehicle stats (just 4 planes in total, 3 good premium planes), but my team was not really able to deal with him as they either ignored him or applied the wrong tactics.
His plane is way faster at low alt (and he refueled after 10 minutes as his WEP lasts for just about 7 or 8 minutes, very smart) so i had to wait until he was far enough away from his airfield to even try to catch him - as i lose my energy advantage in a high speed dive and will be locked in a fight once committed.
So he played around the strengths of my heavy fighter (4.0 SM 92, excellent sustained turn, high dive speed & air brake) and he used every trick in the book (including running to af aaa) as soon as he noticed he will lose the sustained turnfight (as last players alive) against me.
There is pretty much nothing an average player can do against him - i was aware of that i will win by tickets in any case and that he won’t catch me after he ran to his af aaa as his WEP ran out the second time in this match…
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Would love to see this implemented to filter out the larpers on this forum.
Also, this would force Gaijin to actually pay salary to Balance team not Marketing team.
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