Yeah, Its not just that br. Sim became full of cas even at low tier. The option to spawn as plane at start should just be removed.
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It might be, because planes at that time, had batter wapons, flew higher and both are not in the game.
You cant clime to some high altitude and you will never get at your topspeed. Also wapons you can carrie arent the best ones, in that time there were radarguidet bombs, that could lock at the ennemy radar. In warthunder air is just harder because it just dont have what it should have.
The addition of the Mig-27 was logical. For a very long time, this lineup was dominated by the A10, which launched the AGM-65 at long range. Russia had no equivalent at all. At the moment, the situation has leveled out and both sides have CAS with usable anti-tank guided missiles. I understand that this is a shock for the NATO side, as until then they had only flown blind SU-25s, which do not even depict targets at long ranges.
Do I need to show you the 10 or so replays where the enemy team just spawns in 3 MiG-27Ks and 2 Mi-24s and kill the entire team in the first 5 mins of the game cause CAS is just so braindead even in sim.
The only reason you or any other player would think that CAS is hard is because you think that being stuck in 1st person is somehow a major handicap.
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Or just make it so it could only take AA missiles and rockets (since at least IMO they take more skill) so it could engage only soft targets and air targets.
There is zero reason to force anyone to drive a tank, i like to fly helicopters at this time there is no other Simulator mode to use those (what a waste!).
If you take this out the possibility to spawn in Sim the only mode left is Helicopter PVE wich is a ridiculous boring joke.
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Uh… then why are you playing Ground if you don’t like being on the Ground?
There’s no other Simulator level mode to use Helicopters so I’m forced to play ground.
Blame Gaijin for that one. At least demand a PVE mode for Sim
You cannot
Lol i wish that was an option
If, you let players play helicopters in airsim thay wouldnt have to play groundsim, and to solve the hole problem with manny planes, I would make maps much larger like in airsim the ground zone would be in the middle and planes would have airfields at the conners of the hole big map, so planes can fly hight, fast and ground would have some peace from the start.
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I know people fly MIG-27 and it’s understandable when it’s the only usable Russian plane at this level. Are they supposed to fly planes from the 50s against 9K33 or ROLAND systems?
For the NATO side, it’s enough for one player to take an F-4E with AIM-7 and all the Russian/Chinese aircraft have no chance of surviving. Plus, they take an AGM-65, so they’ll destroy a few tanks along the way. But I understand that you’re playing for NATO, so you can’t see the other side.
I’m not saying that the current system is great. In my opinion, airports should be much further from the battlefield so they don’t get there so quickly. Helicopters shouldn’t be ready to take off at the start of the game, but they should be launched just like planes. Airports should have modern anti-aircraft systems and not cannons from World War II. :-D
This doesn’t address the issue that CAS still counters SPAA.
The specific vehicle designed to counter aircraft and yes they should deny enemies airspace especially the Roland and other missile only SPAA since they can’t do anything else they should be good at their job.
If there is a missile SPAA up u shouldn’t be able to engage freely.
YES! THEY’RE SUPPOSED TO DIE
You know it might sound crazy but have u heard of this thing called teamwork?
The thing you do when there is an SPAA up and you ask your team to kill it.
It should be encouraged to cooperate not just cry that u can’t kill tanks indiscriminately go play sim for that idk why WT players are just some of the most selfish people on earth.
IT’S A TEAM GAME IT SHOULD HAVE TEAMPLAY.
But this is also gaijins fault.
To anyone else reading this I’m just kinda getting burned out and am sick of the massive issues that just get ignored for months.
I thought u could but its definitely not like gaijin can just change that because its only possible in sim air.
It’s selfish to want to eliminate the only usable aircraft on one side so that your team can win. Why don’t you want to eliminate the F-4E, F-4F, A10, Kurnaas and others that have guided air-to-ground missiles? I assume it’s because you’re playing for NATO.
Are you talking about teamwork here and are you annoyed that someone takes tanks and someone takes planes? I don’t know if you’ve been playing simulators for a short time, but teams that have a little bit of everything tend to win most often.
As I’ve already written, if someone from the NATO team takes an F-4E, and there are a few air defense systems on the ground like 9K33 or ROLAND, then the Russian CAS has no chance. This is teamwork.
I just give up man you are to dense.
I am saying that all radar missile SPAA should lock down a field in their launch range.
But you just blatantly ignore it your little monkey brain is focused on the fact that I main a NATO country and not that I generally wanna see CAS nerfed and SPAA buffed. Idk what you want me to say yes the AGM-65B is better than the Kh-23L and I don’t agree with them being a thing to use against the TOR-1M or the 2S6.
Yet even the Su-25 outranges missiles like the ROLAND3 by 2km the only thing that has more range then it is the 9M33M3 witch outranges you by 300m and frankly it should be that way.
Look when you can comprehend the English language enough to argue properly and see the points I’m making I’ll be open to discussion.
Honestly the cas isn’t bad at low tier as long as you have 1 decent spaa player or a good anti cas player you would be fine and usually there is one of these unless its thet br with the tiger 2 p then its just brain dead germans and like 1276268 yak9k’s
Frankly these are not the boogiemen you think they are. The Jaguar A, Super Etendard, A-6, Q-5L, and AMX have been doing the same thing for much longer.
Frankly it’s a worthy give to be able to get the F-4E back into the bracket it should have been in from the beginning. People forget the F-4E was fighting the 2S6 in for a long time in Top Tier GSB before 11_2 and 10_2 were split
We need bigger maps. Also planes and especially helicopters should spawn much further away from ground battlefield.
Also, jets fly with 1 button, they are much much easier to operate than piston WW2 aircraft. This is nonsense.
First thing gaijin can do is spawn planes at parking, near hangars.
Not every player can even taxi plane to airstrip, but knows very well how to shoot ATGMs from his RB experience.
Make sim the sim, not an RB from cockpit!
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