Right now with only 6 battles played. 100% win ratio, 3 death and 20 kills.
T-55 AMD1 is a fucking beast!!!
Those two fare much better when compared to 8.7 than with 9.0 MBTs.
They are quite similar but those Chinese tanks have improved mobility paired with a better shell. Also, 3BM25 will struggle with angled armor, so the whole UFP of those Chinese tanks is safe from it, while armor of T-55s is literal cheese in return.
This means that in a head on engagement, 88s will have quite an advantage over 55s, which in my opinion is enough for a BR increase.
It’s workable now, because it finally has some spalling. But few years back it didn’t do anything and you hat to shoot the crew one by one. The APHE is better for small maps, but I also get the weird side armor bounce on Tam, Marder, etc. from time to time.
Pro player indeed, imagine what you can do when you get your hands on the Object 279, it will be 100 kills with 3 deaths.
They’re faster, the gun handling is better with faster traverse speeds and Type 83 (M111) is a massive improvement over 3BM25 with over 60mm more penetration at 60 degrees and better modifiers against composites.
The Type 88s were just all round improvements vs the upgraded T-55s
whether it was warranted is another question entirely
I can’t complain about the Type 88s at 9.0 and say worse tanks deserve the same BR
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Why would you shoot the ZTZ88 in the UFP when you can pop the turret without any issues from any angle with any tank over BR 8?
Fair enough. The correct way would be to decompress, we all know that, but Gaijin cba to even bring the tanks in line with the aircrafts.
Still, not too much left at 8.7 to compare them with, is it?
Just shoot at it’s weakspots bro
This can be said for any tank in the game.
It’s not what I’ve said, don’t need to be coy about it. All the T-55s and derivatives can be lolpened anywhere on the turret, by any ammo, with the exception of the era protected turrets for HEAT-FS. That’s why I said why would anyone try and aim around the UFP when you can pen the tank anywhere else.
“any ammo” that is APDS or APFSDS
Any other ammo and no it does not lolpen it with the exception of ATGMs which do not have extremely spalling so as to knock out a tank in one shot.
Other tanks at the same battle range deal with less armor and less mobility in some cases yet function fine. Due to the addition of the armor and APS system on both tanks making down tiers completely overbalanced the tanks should be increased to 9.0 alongside every other modernized Cold War vehicle.
If your complaint is that 9.0 as a BR range is currently suffering from compression due to 9.3-10.7 vehicles not having room to go up then your argument still accepts the vehicles should be moved up.
I never said they shouldn’t. All I’ve asked is why they moved the ZTZ88s up and not the T-55s.
And on the ammo side, the turret is a fair game even for HEAT-FS as long as it doesn’t have some kind of ERA protection, like on the ZTS88s, T-62 or T-55. The random broken postpen effects of different type of ammo was never a subject of my posts in this thread.
Doesn’t change the fact it’s better to have armored UFP that can eat shots placed in a hurry even from shells at it’s BR range. Armor can’t be relied on, but it’s always nice to have a chance to eat something unexpected, which clearly is an advantage to ZTZ88s. Paired with other advantages mentioned above, I think it deserves it’s 0.3 BR increase.
Not really, they should never share BR with tanks like A1A1 or OF-40 Mk.2A.
When those latter tanks go up, so should T-55s as well.
Neither of those tanks so outclasses the T-55AMD-1 and T-55AM-1 compared to how 7.7 vehicles are outclassed by the T-55AMD-1 and T-55AM-1
9.0 tank doesn’t outclass 8.7 tank as hard as 8.7 tank outclasses 7.7
Gee, who would’ve thought, tell me more.
7.7 is a known cesspool of imbalance which simply isn’t fixable without a heavy decompression. 9.0 - 9.3 range is also becoming compressed to hell, seeing how L/44 is at the same BR as T-64A makes me laugh.
Until we get more BR brackets to work with, things should stay as they are.
What will the T-55AMD-1 / T-55AM-1 face at 9.0 which makes this BR range unacceptable for them?
First of all, you’ll be facing 9.3s and 9.7s quite more often and even those will have an edge over you at literally everything.
Second of all, you’ll start facing 10.0s and some of those will be quite difficult to deal with frontally, just take something like Leopard 2AV, British 10.0, Chinese 10.0, Merkavas, etc. as an example.
You will be aiming at, sometimes extremely small, weakspots while being (much) worse in literally every other metric as well.
As a 7.7 you face 8.7 vehicles who have an edge over you at literally everything.
Okay and ?
You are demanding something that won’t fix anything, it will just move the problem elsewhere, so doing anything that isn’t a complete decompression would be completely useless.
It will make 7.7 better and balance two very strong MBTs that currently out perform other available vehicles of the BR range.
Yes, T-55AMD-1 & AM-1 have inferior darts to every 9.0.
Their armor makes up for their slower speed & poor gun handling, but that’s about it.