Yes, at top tier. The Type 74 at the same BR has HEATFS as its default round.
its default round is HEATFS, but as it is a premium it gets all ammo from the beginning. Only Rank 8 vehicles have APFSDS by default.
Totally agree HEATFS is terrible
Sorry about all the mistakes i made
Only if it has two APFSDS to choose from, and HEATFS isn’t that bad. You get APDS as a Rank 1 modification, which performs well.
My experience with APDS is “SHELL SHATTER” on a slight angle and “NON-PENETRATION”. Once i nonpenned a xm246 thats how bad APDS is.
I use the same shell on the Type 74, and it is absolutely great. If you are non-penning, you are hitting extremely steep angles.
aka, skill issue. seriously no problem w/ later APDS
If it only have one APFSDS and other shells(and also don’t have APDS), the APFSDS should be stock
If it has another shell, then the APFSDS shouldn’t be stock. If you are actively struggling with later HEATFS or APDS then start flanking instead. These shells are fine.
If it has TWO APFSDS, then I can see an argument for one being stock. But not at Rank 5 or 6.
Maybe APFSDS should be a tier 1 or tier 2 modification so its easier to get because all the enemies i see have APFSDS.
Whenever i flank i get annihilated by those overpowered SPAA or some player using a overpowered vehicle like the Turm III
I’m flanking at 8.3 (which is where all the OP SPAA and Turm III sit) and you just need to be more aware, or take a longer/obscure flank route.
Thanks for the advice.
Rank 5 is fine and Rask 6 have chance to be uptier and face tanks with NERA or ERA,at that moment HEATFS are useless.Just image 400mm pen HEATFS face T-62M,T-72AV or even T-80UD
And in the past many tank have stock APFSDS and gaijin removed them for “balance”
Just flank. Or fire in the gaps of ERA. No vehicle in game has total ERA everywhere. Shoot the barrel and flank them, shoot their track and run, etc. etc. There’s lots of ways to take a fight with ERA tanks. I don’t need to imagine facing ERA w/ HEATFS because I’ve done it because I actively play the game.
Maybe i feel more pain because i play GAB main,there are less chance to flank in AB.Many times when i have to face ERA tank of something has a high CE during the stock grind,I may think “if i already have APFSDS ,that guy will die”.Then i image gaijin changed the stock shell and everyone got stock APFSDS, imo that will have a better balance and make most players more comfort.
Some tanks used to get APFSDS as stock but others did not.
So when people complained that it wasn’t fair, the snail agreed…and gave everyone stock HEAT-FS.
They basically evil genied the community’s wish.
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Please tell my M60s and M1s that they get APFSDS as a default round, they’d love to hear it.
Until then, maybe learn a little bit more before you say something that wrong.
Yes i will be doing more research before i post now.
its 10.3… it was added at 10.0
i think every tank should get APFSDS as default if they can shoot it… lol
Stock grind should get drastically changed. Back in the days u where able to play 30 games to spade a tank and usually had a default APHE. Now u need Hundrets of Games to just unlock usefull ammo.