The only people who believe that are people who:
A) Never played it, and thus can’t speak to it’s effectiveness.
B) Are bad at the game, and don’t understand what makes a vehicle meta.
Or both.
Ppl who thinks 90m is bad are ppl who didnt played minor nations with bad mbts like ariete or merkava
Same ppl who thinks t90m is bad thinks t72a is bad too
And let me tell u the last thing u can say about t series is that they are bad
I grind russia rn im on 9.3 and i didnt came across a single bad t series
Extremely common logic fallacy.
Multiple vehicles can be bad at once.
T-90M isn’t 9.3.
Regardless, the T-72A is extremely average.
Proved my point
No, T-90M is literally among the bottom 5.
Hence why I said mobility combined with armor. The Merkava would get similar mobility to a base CR2, which i’ve played, and for me, the mobility on it was fine.
Sadly this is probably true.
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Merkava Mk4M armor needs to be changed even M60T Sabra IRL can stop kornet missile but in game kornet eaisly can pen Merkava turret and front armor
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I read somewhere that the Merkava 3D armor was comparable to the D, i would love it if they gave all the merkava’s some love. (i don’t have a source for the 3D claim)
gaijin LITERALLY said that they would give the merkavas more armor if it weighed more.
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I always tell people this but they don’t care. I mean to their credit gaijin is pretty incompetent.
I just don’t understand why people are saying it won’t get more armor if it weighed more when gaijin literally stated that they would give it more armor if it did weigh more, and now sources have been given, and people still stomp into the trash. and if you want to compare the Namer to this as well, you can see how it’s in the same boat with the merks.
and try and tell me how the merk mk3’s are "supposedly 2-3 tons lighter than the merk 4, I mean honestly look at the size difference and all around everything and tell me they are “similar in weight somehow” and don’t need an armor buff with a tradeoff to mobility
oh wait im sorry, its .5 heavier than mk3. tell me how that makes sense
Any chance you could find where they said this?
Can I ask something?
Ingame T-90M hull is 196mm at 61 degrees, which means LOS of ~404mm. With the ERA that it has we can see that the KE armor is ~754mm, and CE is ~1250mm. Knowing that the ERA provides 250mm KE armor and 650mm CE, it means that for the T-90M hull, ~404mm = ~504mm KE and ~600mm CE.
Merkava Mk4 hull is 170mm at 74 degrees, which means LOS of ~616mm. It provides ~1050mm CE, and ~365mm KE.
How is it possible that 50% of Merkava Mk4’s KE armor comes from 50mm(5 centimeters) of RHA?
And how is it possible that one piece of Relict ERA(250mm KE armor) is equal to ~68% of Merkava Mk4’s frontal KE armor?
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Not really, because you said:
‘‘Same ppl who thinks t90m is bad thinks t72a is bad too’’ -noamax
I never claimed the T-72A was bad, I said it was extremely average, which it is.
None of this changes the fact that you’ve never played the T-90M. If someone judges a vehicle’s worth, they ought to at least have some significant number of games under their belt.
The T-90M is among the least meta MBT’s at 12.0 thanks to it’s:
- Abysmal reverse.
- Atrocious reload rate.
- Awful gun depression.
- No neutral steering.
- Poor acceleration.
- Low top speed.
- Abysmal reverse steering.
- Extremely RNG survivability.
- Low penetration.
Like I said previously, mobility = meta. If the T-90M had mobility equal to the T-80BVM or M1A2 SEP it’d be significantly better than it currently is, but it doesn’t.
68 degrees*
All T-72/64/80/90 glacis plates are sloped at 68 degrees.
My bad about the angle of the hull. But still, almost all the problems you mentioned(speed, gun depression etc) exist also in real life. On the other hand, there are many things and features the Merkava Mk4 has in reality, besides armor.
It’s missing - mortars, LAHAT ATGM(800mm+ penetration, can direct/top strike), ball chains behind the turret, 200-300mm armored backdoor, special spall liners(thats what I’ve heard at least, tho almost every modern tank has spall liners) and some more stuff that I don’t know/remember.
I honestly think they just dont like Israel, from whatever reason. It can be seen more clearly in the Merkava Mk3’s hollow armor, and the Namer non-existent armor(filled with air that’s heavier than a Leopard 2A7V).
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The Merkava remains highly mobile for its weight even in real life. The current mobility is not inaccurate, the weight and armor is.
Gaijin’s official stance on the Merkava IV is that it can’t have good armor because of its current weight and armor coverage.
From what I know, the weight should be 85.7 tons on the Merkava 4M