Do you think the F-4E should get the improved Aim-9P-4 and LGBs this update since it got a br increase this past small update?
1 Like
-better payload equals to higher br, so make sure that’s considered.
imho F4E is the very standard of 11.0, and it should stay there
6 Likes
Its radar is horribly modeled in game. And with it getting ordinance that it isnt supposed like the GBU-15 which is Technically a DMAS only weapon, i feel like it should at least get a Radar model re workand better missiles. Hell, the F-4S (a 70 dollar prem btw) has navy agile eagle HMS PD radar and Aim-7F at a .3 br higher. Just doesnt seem balanced
1 Like
Gaijin isnt even specific on what version or block number the phantom is in game. It has the DSCG model but a DMAS weapon and an RWR (the ALR-46 which is post vietnam) so it should at least have access to Aim-7F
1 Like
And the ASX-1 TISEO (as found on the Kurnass 2000) that would fix the LD/SD capabilities of the APQ-120.
3 Likes
Tbh that’s a powercreep issue also a huge compression between 11.0 and 11.3. As you see, there’s a huge difference between F4E and S. Actually the entire 11.0 is suffering, those that are playable at this BR are among the best, J7E&J8, JA37C etc, and they are not even that good. My opinion is as of right now you avoid playing this BR.
1 Like
Not really maybe for radar slaving but what needs to be modeled is the APQ-120v11 or v12 with its CAA mode
Yeah but i love my F-4E
The -9P-4 is to the -9J what the R-60 is to the -60M, which is already readily available on many airframes at 11.0, its not even asking for parity since its not capable of 30G. and that doesn’t even touch on the R-23 or 24T, accounting for the range advantage on what are more performant airframes(MiG-23, etc.).
2 Likes
P-4? No.
J-1s? Sure, why not
LGBs? Alright, though it’ll likely increase GBR
P-4 for the EJs? Absolutely, the only actually needed and undeniably beneficial change.
J and J-1 are basically the same the J-1 has reduced smoke motor
P-4 is still 20Gs with a 9L seeker
J-1 is radar-slavable
Umm ok. That doesnt make it a better missile. Thats just an ergonomics thing
i think maybe AAM-2 for ADTW but P-4 for EJ maybe
1 Like
nah it gets longer lock range
also the base variant of the F-4E gets the pave tack as on the F-111
Nah the DMAS F-4E gets pave Tack. Also the GBU-15 on the F-4E was only used on the DMAS F-4E.
So since it’s on the F-4E in game, I assume that we have a DMAS F-4E. But the F-4E in game is missing the camera pod in the wing as well as the radar upgrades and the visual cosmetic changes.
1 Like
because they claim its a 1972 “pre DMAS” F-4E, even though the AGM-65Bs and as you stated the GBU-15 didn’t enter service till that upgrade happened
1 Like
GBU 15 controls were also not retrofitted onto any non DMAS airframes