Should the Chieftain MK5 have L23 apfsds

Both the MK3 and MK5 chieftain are woefully underpowered in comparison to the competition at 8.7, however i might have a solution for the mk5. i haven’t found an answer for sure but L23 apfsds was introduced in early 1985 and the mk10 upgrade package wasn’t implemented till at least late 1986. any chance someone has a definitive answer about whether or not the mk5 ever carried L23 apfsds (L23 not L23a1)

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The Mk. 5 never received APFSDS as the ammunition was too big for the stowage.

However, Mk. 5 tanks that were upgraded into Mk. 5/4 did. As they had the stowage altered to fit the APFSDS ammo.

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sure would be nice to have the various modernizations available for the early chieftains, they kinda get stomped on these days

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I’ve said it in a few threads now, but what I’d like to see:

  • Chieftain Mk 3: Go down to 8.3, though may cause balance issues. Preferably I’d like to see more high tier decompression so the other Chieftains can go up and leave the Mk 3 it’s own BR space at 8.7. There’s no point in taking it over the Mk 5.

  • Chieftain Mk 5: Give it the missing LRF, it’s been bug reported for ages now. Give it L15A5 ammo as a top round. If there’s decompression it can be moved to 9.0.

  • Chieftain Mk 5/4: Add it at 9.0, give it L15A5 as the stock round and L23A1 as the top round. If there’s decompression it can be added at 9.3.

  • Khalid: Drop it down to 9.0 and give it L15A5 as the top round. It is asymetrically balanced against the new Mk 5/4. With the Mk 5/4 having far better firepower and the Khalid having far better mobility. If there’s decompression it can remain at 9.3.

  • Chieftain Mk 10: Move it up to 9.3, remove the stock L15A3 and replace it with L15A5, remove the fake L23 ammo and replace it with L23A1 as the top round, and then give it a new tier IV modification that turns it into the Mk 11 with the TOGS box. It’s an incredibly minor model change just swapping the IR light box for the TOGS box. If there’s decompression it can be moved to 9.7.

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