I dont agree with it
I think flarak and ito are good and fair against non-russia cas
Thos spaa has a bit more range then the cas and thats how it should be but pantair have way more range then nato cas so its op
kh38 are mach 2 20km(30km after this update btw) being too strong compare to flarak and ito but against pantsir its ok its just dont happends cuz they on the same f*cking team
So either nerf pantsir and kh38 or give pantsir and kh38 eqivlants
1 Like
- It’s 30km point lock.
- Pantsir is only effective at around 13km, anymore than that and it’s actually skill issue (literally becomes a whale after burn time)
- I agree about Pantsir equivalents, problem is that they don’t exist because NATO went another way doctrine wise
1 Like
You play limited Pantsir in GRB. Play some custom battle with Pantsir and you know the effectieve range and lock on. The effective range is around 10km and everything beyond is against noobs in jet or helicopter.
Gaijin secret nerf the Pantsir missile to please the CAS players and now even a hit from Pantsir against jets above 12.0 means no fatal damage you will score the hit but not fatal enough unless you hit them on the engine side.
You think doesn’t mean it work like that. CAS still super strong even if Pantsir “strong”. Other nation need something alike not nerfing the only workable SPAA. A decent CAS player can easily wipe the floor even with Pantsir on the enemy team.
As much credits as that thing get for being the best SPAA in the game. Nerfing it would only keep the stalemate that has existed for years. Not just top tier , all ground rank facing this problem. Nerfing a single SPAA just because CAS player can’t play point and click adventure against stuff that can’t fight them is not a good reason to nerf this or nerf that. What you doing is addressing the problem at face value. When kh38 and Pantsir is a part of bigger problem and nerfing one single vehicle or a single AGM is not the way to do it
1 Like
Flarak might have the same missile as ItO but it must reload after every two shots and that takes time. ItO is definitely much more superior.
30k point lock is niche at best.
With this logic you’ll nerf dozens of vehicles or give their non-existent equivalents.
1 Like
After the update its gonna be tracking lock im pretty sure
Nato cas has 10km exept hammers that are very sliw and ez to intercept
Gaijin doesnt even try
Israel has 2 options 1 can be very good and balanced (spyder) or germany with upgraded flarak or us adats can be buffed
A decent pantsir is op its just most of them just brain dead
Nato cas cant deal with pantsir witg more then 1 braincell
It is not
2 Likes
CAS that knows how to turn left can defeat a decent Pantsir.
3 Likes
While the Pantsir is the current best SPAA in the game, not even it stands much of a chance against current air threats. What we truly need is better SPAA altogether for every nation.
2 Likes
Didnt said it doesnt?
After the update it will track im pretty sure and even rn 20km is op against vt1
Just nerf pantsir and kh38 its not hard
And there is many options gaijin just lazy and biased
Not under 10km which is maveriks range
It’s just a TGP buff.
Tracking lock is determined by the seeker of the missile, which is exactly the same on most missiles IIRC.
A decent [insert plane here] pilot is OP, it’s just most of them are brain dead.
What a good argument.
20km isn’t it’s tracking lock dude.
So you’ll have to nerf dozens of other vehicles in the game with it.
No reason to do this. It’s already really weak compared to its opponents. The Pantsir is just the only usable SPAA in-game right now.
Like i said , what you doing is just scratching the surface , the problem is way bigger. Nerfing pantsir now would only keep the stalemate. You don’t want to nerf this or that just because “Le A OP nerf NOW”
Im saying bad pantsir can deal with “op” and good cas
Good pantsir is unbeatable
It does check again kh38 have 20km lock
No u wont cuz it will be on par with everything else wth
Its just not true
So flying smart and using terrain is hard , gotta remind you some of the map are piss horrible for SPAA to operate. All SPAA not just pantsir
1 Like
What a great non-argument.
20km is it’s point lock, it only tracks from 12-13km away.
I was saying for other BRs.