especially when it comes to those damn Kh-38s
no, other countries just need something similiar.
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The fun part will be when everyone will get new SPAA systems, and Russia will get the best of the pack again, upscaling the current situation, but not fixing it.
If the rumors are true the pantsir will already be nerfed when anti radiation missiles come out just by the fact that anti radiation missiles would be in the game
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No, we need more Pantsirs, not less.
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Let me guess, you charge in a straight line towards the battlefield without manuevering or playing defensive much like all the F-4S players charge in a straight line towards bases with a RWR beeping like crazy with a dozen Phoenix contails in the air?
And rather then learning how to outplay the pantsir which is incredibly easy you come to the forums to complain?
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There is still the option to spawn on the ground you know? You don’t have to spawn in the air where 99% of the time that’s where Pantsirs are looking
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Should Pantsir be nerf?
Yes.
Or add a spawn point penalty so you can’t pick it up for 100 sp as the third or fourth spawn.
SPAA just needs major buffs… why the hell are we sitting there at top tier in SPAA without a radar, having to eyeball a jet that is shooting missiles from 25km away whilst we cannot even engage it beyond 5km?
At top tier radar coverage should be default, in no modern conflict are jets going to come anywhere near the front line without being detected hundreds of kilometers prior, yet in Warthunder they can go undetected and still cannot even be spotted.
Any jet that spawns should be detected instantly and every nation needs an SPAA with 20km range.
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Yea nerf current Pantsir so we can add pantsir with 40km missile. Mounted on a better track vehicle. /s
Nah, they should buff it.
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Though… am I the only one who never dodge Pantsirs well in F15F16s but absolutely 0 pressure in E2k? So strange is there that much a difference?
nope the real problem is the lack of pantsir like range in every other nation
-One single workable SPAA got added into the game and it is still peak bad cause CAS still super strong
-CAS player unable to get good and die to the “strongest” SPAA in the game despite CAS still vastly stronger than the strongest SPAA
-“X SPAA TOO OP PLEASE NERF !!!”
-Said SPAA actually get nerf
Repeat.
Not even diving into the role of SPAA as a whole and what can it offer in a match beside shooting down aircraft and map problem.
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Pantsir should not be nerfed, I think everybody should be given a pantsir for like 140sp in top tier matches, no matter country, kinda like the drones and nukes. It sounds stupid, but its the best counter to the US/RUS Cas creep, unless Gaijin stops twiddling their thumbs and just gives us Multi-Chassis SPAA systems, with disconnected but destroyable radar trailers
It’s worth mentioning, currently games never get an ounce of map control outside of when the opfor gets steamrolled and spawncamped. We need more SPAA players, and we need larger maps so that games aren’t just cooked once one spawn falls
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Should these systems be able to go outside of the regular tank map have a spawn separated kind of like the helicopter spawns?
Nah, I think they would work better if they spawned right behind you when you load in (or beside you) so everyone has a different radar, and ofc it would be destroyed when you die and would also harm you if it’s destroyed, not just loss of missile control. It would need to have some level of balancing, like it’ll move to whichever grid you are in (slowly like a heavy tank so it doesnt just teleport) so you cant just hop in the NASAMs and snipe aircraft from the corner right next to enemy spawns while your radar is all the way across the map
No… other nations just need something that is equivalent to it.
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That the problem they don’t have. Next step are thing like patriots. But these thing are equals to S-300/S-400.
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The problem is, 12.0 meets 11.0. Even 11.7s won’t have a chance.
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