Since in this update is coming out f16C block 52 ans it’s not seeming different from f16C block 50 existing actually on game im asking comunity do you think that this vehicle should get CFT? i this that the most excluding this f16C version from others is their CFT, it’s giving US more spacer for armamet because on 14.3 where other planes have so much spacer for armamet CFT would give f16C more space for even bombs and not taking it away with attached to pylons fuel tanks.
Also there will be more skin verions to do then such like Polish f16C with CFT that for me looks very good
No, it’s technically impossible, as we already told you. US F-16s can’t use CFTs, there just aren’t the proper plumbings for it.
Only export F-16s can have it, like the F-16E, I and V.
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You mean 50+ 60 & 70 series? Which are particular models that the US doesn’t have
“All Advanced Block 50/52 and Block 60 F-16 versions are compatible with the new CFTs.” This is coming from Lockheed themselves, so the US f16’s could carry them but they don’t.
https://investors.lockheedmartin.com/news-releases/news-release-details/lockheed-martin-f-16s-fly-first-production-conformal-fuel-tanks
Yes, the “advanced” are probably the new-built ones, which do get the pipes. The US uses old airframes that have been updated several times, but they don’t have the new pipes.
Come back to me if you found info on a modernization program that includes cft compat
We don’t have the ‘advanced series’ though, the only one that is comparable is the F-16I, which is based on the F-16C-52+ and not a normal C-52, which is the one the PoBIT that we have is except for the PoBIT modernizations of course.
The post from Lockheed was made in 2003, the “advanced” term is used to describe the f16 block 50/52 post CCIP upgrade, F16’s with these upgrades started being shipped in 2001 and the last Block F16 50/52 received by the USAF was in 2005 meaning the USAF likely got these advanced F16C’s.
(The Advanced term is used around the same time that the F16’s were upgraded with the CCIP program)
“7053 was last of 2231 F-16s built for USAF. Delivered Mar 25, 2005”
https://www.aircraftinformation.info/JB_AIF/usaf_fighters/f16_4c.html
The F16 Block 50 (from 2007) in the USA tech tree has the CCIP upgrade so it is Lockheed’s “Advanced” version meaning it is compatible. The F16 PoBIT is much more modern (2022+) but its upgrades never specified any upper fuselage reworks so it could still be compatible.
The USAF received the Advanced F16C Block 50/52 in 2001-2005, so the F16 PoBIT and F16C Block 50 in the USA Air Tech Tree are derived from the “Advanced” versions of the F16C meaning they both have the compatibility to carry the CFT’s.
Interesting. Well if you can prove that to Gaijooble you can try to report it. Though make sure that the F-16CM PoBIT we have in-game is one of these new-built airframes
Or any export CJ derivative post-97.
They aren’t. You’re misconstruing the term “advanced” to mean that all F-16CMs hold the ‘+’ suffix of the -50/52s denoting CFT capability.
There are no F-16s currently operational in the USAF capable of mounting CFTs. The only airframe I know of that isn’t in a museum is sitting as a gutted display piece at Sheppard.
The terms “Advanced” “+” are almost the same thing, regardless of that the US received the version of the F-16 that Lockheed states has the compatibility to carry CFT’s (Advanced version).
The “Advanced” and + “suffix” is used to describe the same export config of the plane but at different times, both are the export version and both were deleviered to the US.
TBH the only argument is if “compatibility” means it should get it in game
Also all PoBITs are from the airframes from the 1990’s and 2000’s, and since then they haven’t had major upper fuselage reworks.
They aren’t “new” airframes the block 50 and 52 are the same plane/ airframe but with different engines (post CCIP).
Hopefully the snail will bless the f16 with more fuel without fuel tanks
To clarify old airframes don’t have the capability to use conformal tanks at all. The connections simply do not exist, and fuel has to flow through somewhere. Integrating CFTs on an old airframe implies adding those pipes. The F-16CM PoBIT we have in game has, as its name suggests, received two modernizations which are the “CM” and the “PoBIT”. The PoBIT focuses on avionics, while the CM is (if I’m not mistaken, I’m not very familiar with that upgrade) mostly an airframe renovation to extend service life. Unless you can prove that pipes were added at some point during either of these upgrades, the F-16CM PoBIT cannot get CFTs.
But anyway why can’t you just take the centerline droptank? I can’t think of any significant ordnance it would replace
Honestly it’s likely the CFT connections were removed during the CM upgrade but there’s nothing that directly references the removal of the connections so I’m hoping’ and tbh I just like the way they look and the extra fuel helps in sim.
Brother. No connections were removed, I’m telling you they originally didn’t exist. CFTs weren’t a thing until 2003, before that no F-16 had the connections, and it seems highly unlikely to me that the few last Block 50 airframes built until 2005 incorporated a change for something they weren’t planning to use.
If you can’t prove that they weren’t integrated (which they had no reason to since they didn’t want to use the CFTs at all), the PoBIT has no reason at all to be compatible with CFTs.
Do you understand better?
I fully agree on that, but then you should ask for the F-16E which would honestly just be a better PoBIT
Again, the centerline droptank exists
Depending on what Lockheed meant, all CCIP post F-16 Block 50/52’s had the compatibility (2001+), or all F-16’s post 2003 were compatible. If they mean 2001 then about 40% were compatible but if they mean 2003 then about 10-20%.
All F16 Block 50/52 airframes were built the same for each country so even though the US didn’t need the CFT’s their airframes could be installed with them either way.
The centerline only gives 10 min extra of fuel which personally isn’t enough.
Also wouldn’t the F16E go to another country instead of the US
It should go to USA imo, who else?
if it were up to me, id say the nation that manufactures the aircraft should also get it (minus the nation specific modifications like the MLUs do to the aircraft being upgraded outside of the US but the base modifications and blocks of the As Bs Cs and Ds are fine and stuff otherwise there would be a entire tech tree of F-16s), if we go along with that then the US would have F-16s A-Vs any and all blocks, but as is if we only included the ones that the test base in flordia flew, we’d also have As ,Bs ,Cs ,Ds ,Es ,Fs, and Vs (Fs being the two seater Es) of which the US is still lacking on aircraft that it flew in service that are in other tech trees, hell were still missing the US block 40s which were at the time meant to be the ground attack version before it was all crammed into one being the block 50, i just want the wider hud, although they are getting swapped out with the slimmer hud
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