Should Great Britain Australian M1A2 Abrams?

Like how they over estimated Challenger 2’s armor and actually made it better than what it should be?

The reason you guys want Commonwealth vehicles its because you know that Challenger 2’s are not good and cannot compete against other tanks, so you guys basically asking other countries best toys.

Whats next, you guys gonna claim Indian Su-30’s and Rafale should be in British tech tree?

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wah wah wah, i dont want my own planes in the game because some people like a million years ago were oppressed

makes sense to me

Aren’t you the oppressed then? I don’t really get it. I am not against adding these vehicles.

Gaijin got no problems implementing Commonwealth ships, or South African tanks, but won’t do that for the Abrams.

Yesn’t - I get why, and I would completely understand why, say, an Aussie would want an Abrams in the British tree, or say, Canadians a Leopard in the British Tree - they want their kit in their “home tree”, which, in absence of having their own, or a Commonwealth Tree, they see as Britain.

However, British Purist here - We should be getting buffs for Challies, we shouldn’t be getting heaped with Leopards and Abrams on the basis they have Commonwealth flags on them. In the same way, the Bhishma shouldn’t have been dumped in the British tree.

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The TES, and every CR2/3s Turret Armour disagrees with you

Also, our best docs still make the point that our L27A1 round is superior to M829A1. Gaijin has not adjusted its figures for the L27A1 to this end.

Got the wrong end of the stick - the vast majority of people asking for Aussie Abrams/Canadian Leopard in the Brit Tree are people from commonwealth countries who want all their tech in one tree.

Don’t be so silly, they should go to the Russian and French trees respectively. To that end, the Bison and Bhishma should also have been in the Russian tree. The Vijayanta should be British, since it’s a variation of the Vickers MBT.

Well maybe if they started adding our vehicles, like Vickers Mk.4, CVR(T), Ajax/FRES/Scout SV, Tracked Rapier. Maybe if they stopped rejecting bug reports on the Chally 2 out of hand. Maybe if they represented the CR2/3 as the mobile bunkers that they are, with fair mobility, but effective armour, then that’d be fine.

But. They. Don’t.

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Can you share those? I’ve never seen any such documents.

Courtesy of Flame

Yes, I’m familiar with those documents.

The problem is that it does not specify the angle of attack, and the British have a tendency to use LoS penetration @ 70° like here:

L23A1 438mm LoS Penetration at 70 degrees at 2km

In-game L27A1 penetrates 701mm at 1000 metres under those same criteria.

if those snakes at gaijin dont buff challengers being the heaviest and worst mbts in game (next to ariete)

why shouldnt they add those ?

gaijin are snakes and shitty devs yes we can blame them for being so ignorant

xD

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sigh I’ve been summoned. And what meaningful buffs do you think the Challenger 2s can receive?

  • Better armour? As pointed out in another thread, the armour is already egregiously overperforming:
  • Better mobility? Every tank would benefit from regenerative steering so the CR2 would just go back to square one.
  • Ready rack? Even the current ready rack of 4 rounds is historically accurate.
  • Charm 3 should have better pen? Unless it turns out that the penetrator is constructed from Minecraft’s obsidian, there won’t be any notable improvements anytime soon

Adding Commonwealth vehicles to the UK which the UK has nothing to do with is a terrible idea, it:
a. sets a very bad precedent
b. does nothing but celebrate a colonial empire which to this day has been so destructive and detrimental to the sovereignty of foreign nations

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there shouldnt be anything wrong with adding those commonwealth vehicles to the Uk tree the tree itself sucks ass and needs buffs and fixes. also adding the m1 aim to the brit tree isnt that much of a hassle

also point B is so stupid to say womp womp who cares it happend so what its history adding some tanks to a failing tree wouldnt hurt a fly and maybe people will grind the UK tree more instead of adding vehicles to a tree thats useless

im not even british lol i like the british tree bc of the challengers. crying about history in a tank game bc some red coats killed some people across the world 400 years later is such a shit excuse to not add some tanks to a virtual tree bruh and i couldnt care shit about the royal family and idk who MoD is but they can fuck right off gaijin is just a snake being dirty and doing shit thats not fair

England had 0 interest in the m1a2 or m1a1 aim programs. They where made in the US and shipped FROM the us. Making the vehicle American out fitted for Australian needs. If you want the Abrams in your TT then just remove America from the game cause every single major American vehicle is in other TT.

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I don’t often flag posts but you’re really derailing this by going off on a political rant.

People are trying to discuss a tech tree in a video game, let’s just stick with that, shall we?

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what document is this from btw?

Playing UK makes fun
a man in a knight 's outfit says i 'm invincible while holding a sword

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