Its fine where it is.
I reckon that if the F-16C is reduced to 13.3BR, it will exacerbate the Su-30Mk problem even further.
@Morvran, If F-16C move down to 13.3, is there any chance Tonka F.3 Late, SHAR FA.2, or F/A-18C(Early) can resist against those?
Especially when F-16A ADF is currently at 13.3.
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F-16C is perfectly fine
Main drawback is lack of missiles, it does not need to go up or down in BR
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The only Major downside is missile count which is only 2 less than the F-15C. If you don’t want it getting up tiered to 14.7 then decompression is the answer not compression.
i dont think it should go down, but how do you play the F-16C
4x AIM120 2x 9M, air belts, 40 flares/ 80 chaff, 80% fuel
I start by sideclimbing to 8.5 - 9km, then I go for the highest possible speed. I try to keep my position behind my team, focusing on enemies that want to attack them from high alt and if there arent any, I go for people hugging the deck.
AMRAAM launches usually at 20km or less if I have speed above 1.2 mach, closer if im slower.
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Just saying, the F-15A is allready lower in BR than the F-4F ICE, so I would say its not a issue of the plane, but the player…
(The 16C is fine were it is)
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F3 Late, maybe, if played smart and stuck to BVR, FA2, maybe, but it would be hard work, and it would just take a half awake F-16C to defeat either.
And the F-4F ICE is tactically better by having a missile which doesn’t entirely rely on a radar throughout its entire tracking, your point being?
Are we really dragging the player skill argument after comparing german and american vehicles and therefore players? Even while I agree the F-16C is fine at 13.7, this is just easy like farming.
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I guess might be F-16C Block 30/32 (post gulf war config) and F-16CG Block 40/42 (early Iraq war) around battle rating 13.3
Agree. Should be 13.3. Never got.on with the f16c
Feels so heavy in game compared to the rest of the 16s.
13.3 f16 is probs my favorite jet to fly in the current MM.
The f16C isnt enough of an improvement over the 13 3s.
Many other examples of this too. F18s with X ammount of CMs, HMD, better engines at same BRs of f18s that dont.
Try it with current 13.7 matchmaker. it already sees a lot of downtiers to 12.7.
right? at high alt it just weaves through the battlefield. I absolutely love it.
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if the radar had the basic NCTR it would be perfect
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yeah, basic NCTR would be nice to have, but im fine with the current config. certainly one of my go to planes to grind events with now.
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True. The 12.7- 13.7 hole is real.
Cant see how it can be fixed when we have same jets with massivly differnet spec at same BR… then the flip side = flanker no fox 3 13.0. Flanker fox 3= 13.3.
Its a bad mess. Still.think WT is great but out of so many jets theres like 20 that actually compete throughout the full game
Su-30Mkk and M2 AVE should be 13.7 or 14.0, rather than F-16C go down. I don’t like it but I suck at top tier air so it’s realistically a skill issue on my part, but overall it’s fine where it is.
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If that wasn’t obvious enough, it’s not as bad as 40 cause it has the upgraded engine
If 120 CMs instead of 60 isn’t an improvement then I don’t know what to tell you
US F-18s have the same CM count as F-16C
EHEM all of the premium Su-30’s
At least for sim I wish most of the F-16’s didn’t get massively overpowered due to being assigned the 14.3 bracket.
And maybe they should also add the 1001 missing features still pending, like the SMS, NCTR for recent APG-68 platforms, etc.