The addition of it to the F15E warrants it coming to the platforms that can carry it at toptier, and fixes for other ARHs.
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Yes, but only if the F-15Es and other planes get them, and if every other missile (AAM-4, PL-12, R-77-1) are fixed to their IRL performance.
It is unfair for any other plane to get upgraded missiles unless it’s the hornet.
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Maybe because F-15Es’ [Kill per spawn] and [Kill per match] are the lowest one of the 7 14.0BR jets, which aren’t Hornets?
still, if that is a reason, it is quite bizarre that F-18C(finnished) missed AIM-120C
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Not tiny, there is a realistic argument that the Hornets should get it. It gets dunked on in WVR by the EFT and especially Rafale, and it gets absolutely dunked on in BVR by the F-15E, EFT and Su-30SM. (and no, miss me with that “bUt 10 AmRaAm” argument )
Also BOL and C-5 would hardly make it op, besides that there is only 1 Hornet that gets both.
I agree regarding the F-15E though. Stats wise I can see their argument, but I’m still not 100% sure if it’s the good idea.
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That data clearly shows F-15E is being used mostly as ground strike aircraft (compare ground unit kills to any other plane shown).
Ground strike aircraft have, on average, worse A2A kill to death ratio than pure dedicated fighters.
This is just players using the aircraft in one of the least efficient ways possible.
Those players feed the Saint Spreadsheet with data, based on which Gaijin acts upon. Nothing more, nothing less.
Put Rafale in US tree, let it carry 5 tons of bombs and you will get the same results.
My point is that just because people focus on ground strikes with F-15E amd thus the plane as a whole has worse A2A K/D doesnt mean it needs C5.
Gaijin point of view:
-Strike Eggles are lagging behind, we don’t want to move them down to 13.7 as F-15C is already there, what can we do?
-we have this kinda-working AIM-120C5 we’ve added year ago, this might be buff Eggles need to bring their stats closer to other 14.0s
-lets go with that
I am well aware that F-15E is also getting used quite much in GRB, just like the F8F-1 case.
Just…
I just can’t get why Gaijin decided to give AIM-120C-5 not only on F/A-18C but also in F-15E if that isn’t the reason.
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I dont think those ground kills come from GRB (mainly because if they did, Kh-38MTs carriers would reach similiar numbers), but from ARB as most F-15Es ive seen just spam GBU39s at AI targets.
Prolly because full GBU39s payload is heavy > already heavy plane becomes more unmanueverable > cant notch > loses BVR easily.
So gaijin added C5s to compensate, and in typical gaijin fashion, didnt think this decision through as now players tgat use F-15E for BVR only will have massive advantage.
Oh, then that might also explain why F-18C(Finnished) didn’t get AIM-120C-5!
IT CAN’T CARRY ANY BOMBS! XD
Unironically, yes.
Cant bomb > focuses on A2A > better stats so gaijin says its fine
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Top-notch level of snail moments for real. :/
We could have some news abt it today, fingers crossed
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Another great example of player stats never determining vehicle capabilities.
This data that you showed is very interesting, but it shows a reality that gaijin doesn’t know how to deal with, statistics without context are just empty numbers.
Let’s look at the examples, the difference between kd per spawn, per match and the win rate between the EFs.
The 3 are practically the same plane, the only difference is that the German one doesn’t have an irisT and the Italian one is British and has it, and even so, the difference in performance between them is gigantic in their statistics, but there is nothing that justifies these differences.
Another example is the F18s, as the Finnish F18C has better statistics, even though it is a much inferior platform to the American one.
Maybe a buff to the F15’s flight model would be less harmful to the game than implementing a new missile, it just needs to perform its function better.
If all F18C lates had the new Bol Pod like the MLU2, it would already be a change that would make the plane healthier, the implementation of the AIM120C is quite unnecessary.
I think theres more to it but this theory of mine makes the most sense.
Hello
Just to clarify its for sure not a question of if they could carry or them or not. Its very clear Eurofighter could and did.
Currently the Eurofighter and Rafale perform very well in game. So its very much a balance consideration which aircraft get which missiles. However its still being reviewed and decided upon which aircraft will initially receive AIM-120C-5.
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Not really. It needs a radar fix more than anything.
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Just to be clear, Eurofighter is one of the aircrafts currently being reviewed for whether or not it will receive AIM-120C-5?