Should AuF1 moved to 6.7?

Should the AuF1 be moved from BR 7.0 down to BR 6.7. Aside from its good mobility and “fast” reload speed. its not that good. The gun handling is rather poor and the turret is vulnerable to 50cals. The Soviet and “NATO” 152mm-155mm are at BR 6.0-6.3, while the Swedish Bkan is at 6.7 and I dont think anyone will argue that the AuF1 is better than the Bkan. Especially after the implementation of ammo creates.

Furthermore the AuF1 is the only 7.0 tank in the tree, you then have the FOCH and AMX-10M at 7.3 (which no one takes) then the great 7.7 line up, which again no one is going to upteir the AuF1 to 7.7. Meanwhile at 6.7 you have a good line up, which would only be improved with the addition of a BR 6.7 AuF1.

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Mobility. This is the key feature making this vehicle such high BR compared to others, also, France have few 6.7 vehicles that doesn’t need AuF1, also, 7.7 lineup is one of the most strongest in-game, the AuF1 is a good vehicle to be in.

Comparing to others, I guess 2S3M could be easily be a higher BR vehicle due to the mobility and the firepower, sadly it’s not auto loaded but the 3OF25 is the third shell with most explosive TNT equivalent in-game between self-propelled guns.

Faster reload than the 7.3 Type 99, I believe its faster too.

Are you serious? The reload’s are identical (7.5 seconds). Besides, reload is less important in an artillery piece if every shot is a one shot. And the Type 99 has practically a rail gun. Better gun handling and 14.8kg of TNT at 940m/s (meaning its handling much easier) compared to the French 810m/s and 6.8kg. The gun and shell is superior in every way.
And on top of that, the biggest weakness of the AuF1 is its size and vulnerably. The back is one giant ammo rack so any shot to the turret means back to the hanger. That is in stark contrast to most artillery pieces that take forever to kill.

The AuF1 definitely should go down. It is worse than its peers at lower BR’s, it has no BR-lineup to be paired with and France desperately needs any AA it can get to fill the inexcusable 6.7-8.3 gap.

made a bug report to give this thing a more potent shell, if you’re interested :

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/pWOmT9STbe7v

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LU211 is quite literally insensitive to shaped charge and KE munitions. In game, it shouldn’t detonate at all.

AuF1s were modernised to AuF1 TAs (these are the ones in service) which upgraded the electronics (not relevant in-game) and the engine to 750hp. It should be added as a new variant and recieve LU211 in my opinion. Then leave the current AuF1 as is.

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That could be an option indeed, i wasn’t aware it was upgraded tbh.

I think Gaijin will pass the bug report as suggestion, and i suppose they’ll decide what to do with it

@WaretaGarasu sorry for pinging, but would you be able to take a look at the bug report, and maybe pass it as suggestion, if you consider the sources appropriate of course ?

Thank you

Hi. Forwarded as a suggestion.

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Thank you

The insensitive explosive is something called XF13333 by Nexter. From what i could gather, the explosive power is halfway between TNT and Comp B (so basically about ~1.15 x TNT equivalent)

So you could chose between an ammo with less chances to explode and one with more explosive power

More like zero chance of exploding. No reaction (NR) against bullet impact (BI) and shaped charge jet impact (SCJI):

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M109G = 6.0

France version of the M109G = 7.0??

you cannot argue (i mean you could) that the AuF1 is just a fatter M109G, The M109G gets proxy, Great He (like any Arty) the AuF1 at 7.0 is just hurting it, it has big head so its a easier target, france barely ever gets a stabilizer, it would not peak in the 7.7 line-up, and i dont want to up-tier a M44 just so i can have a 1 shot artilery peice because the employee’s at gaijin are just a bunch of babies in boss suits

What do you think about having the same BR as the upcoming 2S19M1?(Words may sound strange due to translation)

I say 6.7 is a good lineup for auf1 if they reduce its br, currently, we have 3 capable tanks and a 6.3 SPAA, which auf1 will definitely be handy. As for 7.7, compared to PLZ05, PZH2000, and Vidar, yeah just forget it.

M44 at 7.0 is surprisingly effective

it is?

You can’t be serious here

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well :

  • the shell is slightly more powerful than AUF1’s one
  • they are very similar mobility wise, with M44 trading a turret for a smaller profile
  • I will give an advantage to AUF1 in the AA role though, and overall resistance to MGs

They are not completely equivalent, AUF1 is still better, but i wouldn’t say by 3 entire BRs, and bringing a M44 to 7.0 can work