Shenyang J-11B - Block 09

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Shenyang J-11B

Block 09

Background and History

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J-11B’s origins:
The J-11B’s origins trace back to its predecessor, which had become obsolete if compared to the PLAAF needs, the J-11A. In fact, China originally sought upgrades from Russia but due to the latter’s unwillingness to transfer key technologies no deals were ever made. The main requests were to upgrade the outdated avionics and in particular the radar system, but Russia seemed to dislike this idea, turning down every offer. That led China to start working on their first true Chinese flanker, which was intended to distinguish itself from the J-11A with a true multirole capability. The project started in 2002 and in the next two years we saw J-11B prototypes fly and test several systems. The most known prototype, 522 red, was the first aircraft to ever fly with the newly developed WS-10 Chinese engines. The development of said engines was an enormous step forward for China to reduce its reliance on Russia and to further boost the capabilities of their airforce, although the program initially suffered its fair share of issues. 2004 is the year that has most often been stated as the year in which the J-11B flew for the first time. The production of the first J-11B batch started in late 2007 following the government’s acknowledgement of the program. The first batch showed quality issues with the engines and had to be taken out of service to analyze the issues and to be fitted with the older Russian engines, but from block 02 onwards the issues were fixed and the WS-10A was once again the powerplant of the J-11B.

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J-11B block 09:
The J-11B block 09 is a slight upgrade compared to the pre 09 batches which integrates the use of a new PESA radar and the newest Chinese IR missile, the PL-10. As I’ve stated in the J-11BG suggestion, the J-11B features the Type 1493 radar that severely hinders the performance of PL-15s, hence the upgrade to the AESA radar given to the BG and the lack of PL-15s on the B version. The block 09 instead uses a PESA radar, being a middle ground between the B and BG. It must be considered that this isn’t a major overhaul, it still retains most of the other avionics and engines as the other J-11Bs, but the addition of the PL-10 boosts the dogfight capabilities to a massive amount.

In game:
The role this aircraft could have for the Chinese tech tree is the addition of the newest generation of IR missiles without massively boosting the BVR performance. Since the enormous jump in capabilities from the PL-12 to the PL-15 we might have to wait a decent while before the latter gets added, meaning a stop-gap like this aircraft could further improve on the capabilities whilst remaining in the realm of the PL-12. To avoid giving this aircraft a feeling of unnecessary grind (it would indeed be a J-11B with new missiles and a better radar, nothing to smear considering the capabilities of the PL-10 but still strikingly similar to the J-11B) it could be folded with the J-11B, hence providing an upgrade at a reduced RP cost.

Technical data

Specification

Crew: 1

Length: 21.9 m

Wingspan: 14.7 m

Height: 5.92 m

Empty Weight: 16,380 kg

Gross Weight: 23,430 kg

Max Takeoff Weight: 30,450 kg

Powerplant: 2 x WS-10D Turbojet Engines

Max Speed: Mach 1.13 (Sea Level)

Rate of Climb: 300 m/s

Range: 3,530 km

Service Ceiling: 19,000 m


Armament

1 x 30mm Type 30-IV Autocannon

10 hardpoints:

  • 2 tandem under the fuselage centerline
  • 2 under the air ducts
  • 4 under the wings
  • 2 on the wingtips

6/8 x PL-12

4 x PL-10

low-drag general-purpose bombs:

  • 4 x Type 250-3/4 Bombs
  • 4 x Type 500-3/4 Bombs

unguided rockets


Avionics

PESA radar

MAWS

2nd Gen RWR

HMD

2nd Gen IRST

Laser Rangefinder

CCIP

Flares/Chaff

Photos

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Radome/Radar

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Cockpit


HUD

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IRST

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Engines

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Helmet

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Pylons

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Sources

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Red Dragon Flankers: China’s Prolific ‘flanker’ Family

China’s Navy Ships and Aircraft of the People’s Republic of China, 1955 - 2021

Royal Aeronautical Society - Red Dragon Flankers article

PLA 4th-Generation Fighters — Sukhoi / Shenyang – China Defence Today

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+1
fold it with J-11A
This is what we should have got instead of J-11A(im fine with keeping J-11A though);
with this china is truly no longer copy paste

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First time learning that J-11 is equipped with PESA radar. It is a good choice to use it as a transitional model between J-11B early and J-11BG.

+1, this should have been the first true ARH capable J-11 but if foldered id hella get this as well.

+1, would give me something to play since I haven’t touched my J-11A and don’t really intend to, can’t wait for domestic dominance for china :)

In my opinion, J-11B Blk 9 or J-11B late would be 14.3

On group under J-11B Early (Block 2) to new rank but before J-11BG or J-11BHG

Slightly worse Su-27SM

I think Su-30MKK guided armament better J-11A

The fighter known as the J11B does not have a variant of PESA, only the Type 1493 radar or the Type 1474 radar (doubtful)

As far as i know the block 09 has does have an upgraded radar. The block 01 surely has the radar that you and the guy above mentioned, but iirc the Block 09 is different.

It’s also possible. After all, PLAAF likes to call all batches of “J11B” “J11B”, but at least, neither PESA nor Type 1474 will be the most widely equipped radar for J11B, you know, I mean Type 1493. This has already begun to be collected at local forums in China.

To be honest, I didn’t know before the forum post that the J11B was once equipped with a Type 1474 radar, do you know the relevant sources? Theoretically, radars with a diameter of 700mm and worse performance will not be widely equipped on the J11B.

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Once i have time I’ll post it here.

According to what I found (Radar Transmitter Technology at Research Institute 14), I didn’t even find the “Type 1474” radar. Perhaps the J11B upgraded to the ESA radar exists. But, really, are you really sure that 1474 was used for J11B? I can’t even be sure of its existence.

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This is the URL, I don’t know if you can open this website.
14-机载雷达发射机技术

I mentioned 1493, not the other one.

Oh sorry, I thought you were the same person who submitted Block 02, I made a mistake, please forgive me.

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No worries.

Yes, the 1474 radar does not exist. So I deleted the relevant reply.

Updated J-11B Blk 2 suggestion change radar. And J-11B Blk 9 ?

J-11B block 9 uses a PESA radar. Not same as Block 2.

Hello. Type 1474 came from numerous online sources including a small book. Since then corrections on my post have been made.


Hopefully J-11B Block 2 comes and J-11B Block 9 as a folded sometime in the future. (Or vice versa)