Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

We have recently worked out it should be able to carry PL-12 since the fire control was modified.

Su-30MKK (PLAAF) and Su-30MK2 (PLANAF) under JH-7A to strike aircraft line ?

But close air support not better J-10B because no guided Air-to-Ground munitions (guided bomb) and targeting pod

Russian Su-27SM equivalent, my guess

But Su-35S from PLAAF only received R-77-1/RVV-SD

Really ?

Su-30MK2 (PLANAF) armed domestic chinese Air-to-Air Missile PL-8B & PL-12 like Sino Flanker ?

And here is a quick check list for Chinese Flanker

Nice, with J11B what CAS options are available? Any guided bombs or missiles?

Actually, you should need the Su-30MK2. Because the Su-30MKK is not equipped with an optoelectronic targeting pod, which means that you can only look for enemies with the KH29TE’s own seeker. And the Chinese Su-30MK2 is equipped with a Peregrine E thermal imaging pod, which is a huge boost.

Does China actually have SAPSAN-E?

yes,here is the photo.
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Also, in the 2006 interview photo, it seems that the Su-30MKK was also equipped with some kind of optical pod, but it was not possible to determine what it was.3C9887019ACF9125E4ABC9935F48B161

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I see, if Gaijin actually goes ahead with it, 30MK2 will be a good option for mixed battles. Thanks!

though it’s still not a top CAS, not much batter than JH-7, so don’t expect too much.

Shouldn’t it be superior in A2A tho?

Still not a top CAS, still inferior to even the Su27SM if u so would call it. Su27SM has double rack R77s so that without sacrificing any KH29s or KABs u can still have a 4+4 loadout, which is not possible with Su30MKK/MK2 which has to have a max of 2 + 4. Also that said SU34 is even still beyond that, same with Rafale or typhoon, or F15E/I.

I mean… Probably have to wait until J-16 to have comparable, or better CAS ability.

J-11B only has unguided bombs, unfortunately. J-11B’s main role is A2A.

and how much A2G weapons can it take? 2-4 KD88 and laser bombs?

J-16 has 12 external hardpoints and can carry 12 tons of ordnance.


It can carry LS-500, KD-88, Anti-ship missile (YJ-83), land-attack cruise missile (AKF-98), and anti-radiation missiles such as LD-10. At Zhuhai in 2022 they revealed AKF088C which has extended range compared to KD-88 and has anti-radiation seeker.

As for specific amount of them it should be 4x KD-88.

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But you will have to wait a very long time :(

Well yeah, J-16 is AESA F-15E competitor, newest J-16 block is pretty much F-15EX counterpart. I won’t expect to see it until 2026, or December 2025 at the earliest.

The main thing is that the gaijin “approves” the introduction of the KD-88 into the game

if the J11B does not have advanced air-to-ground weapons and it remains an air superiority plane gaijin should make it a plane that excels in this area with modern and advanced missiles like the PL-15 and PL-8B the plane must be a real step forward compared to the J-11A, the planes of other nations have enormous quality, versatility, very correct air-to-air and air-to-ground ammunition, the J11B which I don’t have this quality. For me, I should excel in this, specializing in aerial superiority.

the rafale has : AASM, the typhoon : Brimstone, the F15E : Aim 120 X8 + GBU-39 X20

give the PL-15 to the J11B to make it as unique as the others, but hey will gaijin consider this relevant and applicable in the gamplay of 2025 ??🤔🤔