Against Eurofighter and Rafale and even better Su-27SM… but eh, can be worse. At least the chances of J-11B (or outright J-15, I still think Snail gonna make a dedicated naval aviation update with it, MIG-29KR and F-18) being great are much greater
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Anyway, please give me J-11B. I’ve been craving it since this time last year.
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Next year hopefully…
At least Flanker can now actually fly well.
J-15 only has access to 48 countermeasures?
I can only see 48 countermeasure dispensers in the same location as Su-33’s countermeasure dispensers.
Are there extra countermeasure pods? It would take tremendous player skill and discipline to make J-15 work at top tier with PL-12 but only 48 countermeasures…
This is J15T which is sort of more ECM centric rather than actual counter measures. Although I think that is with sort of all j15s at this point.
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In modern combat, there is a bet on ECM and radar, countermeasures fade into the background
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But it would be annoying in game cause there is no such thing as ECM outside of IRCMs seen on Russian equipment.
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It’s not only going to be a problem for J-15T, to be fair.
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Yes, but 48CMs are going to suck for J15s a lot.
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do you know what kind of ECM is available for J-15? is it like Su-39?
Well… maybe we will finally get special flares imitating engines of said plane or pyrophoric flares, so you can carry just few pops and then mainly chaffs.
☹️☹️☹️☹️. I take back what I said about j-15. I like the j-11 a lot more now. Although externally, the j-15 is still much more beautiful.
Has the J-11B retained the ability to carry the R-73? I think the PL-12 + R-73 will look much better than the PL-12 and PL-8B.
I don’t think it did, although that said, PL8B will have longer range and propulsion than R73. So over all not that bad, although R27ER/T on top is another big loss. PL12 would perform a lot nicer than R77 which should balance it a bit plus the radar.
Yeah that canard makes it flow a lot better.
That said, pyrohphoric flares even if u bring like 8 of them, that is still 40 chaff max, compared to the stupid 1200 on Tornado, is a bit…
I do not particularly know what is carried by J15 early, in theory the same as SU27SK but better and integrated to the body. J15D is available to PLAN at least now, which has all the EW kit, but given the service time is probably just months ago it is hard to believe it would be implemented so soon.
In thermal imaging missiles, maneuverability is still more important to me than range. And the R-73 has more than a good launch range.
True, although nothing we can do about it, it has brand new systems and I don’t think China intended to use Russian equipment or J11B for very long anyways. J10Cs and J16s are taking over rapidly, as well as stealth fighters, and plus things like PL10 are available to later J11Bs it makes R73 more the unnecessary.
It is strange that they are abandoning the single-seat j-11 in favor of the two-seat fighter bomber j-16. They should make their own analogue of the Su-35, a single-seat air superiority fighter. And two-seat fighters aren 't that cool either. 👀
J11BG is available so yeah, J16 is also just as capable, and for PLAAF, why have more types of aircraft which complicates everything, when they could all be done by J16 RN, especially the fact that they function more the same in air combat.
Well, let’s wait for the J-11B. I really hope that gaijin will not throw us a handout in the form of j-10B instead of J-11B in the next update.
It is not strange at all.
J-16 is just outright better than any J-11, including J-11BG in air-to-air combat.
J-16 is also much superior in air-to-ground and can perform SEAD duties.
J-11D was canceled because it was too expensive, it was approaching the price of a J-20.