Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

Guys we are aware that we can equip 6x ERs on this Flanker and not the VVS/VKS variant right?

Sorry I have not been following this topic in detail until now in case its already noted.

…why are you in the Chinese Flanker thread if you are just simping for Russia and making outlandish claims? Pl-17 is just straight up better than the R-37M, reporting up to 500km of range, lofting itself high into the upper atmosphere to avoid detection, and uses an AESA seeker. As for PESA vs AESA debate: https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA283773.pdf this is a bit old but has a good section stating the advantages over PESA radars. And there’s tons of other documents out there that took a deep dive into the subject matter and concluded AESA is better; there’s a reason modern military’s are using AESA and not PESA…

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Why not 10k kilometers?

There is no access

The Chinese pl-15 is the R-77-1 level. The dimensions of the missiles are similar, both have a loft, you can’t jump higher, I advise you to study the rocket dynamics

Never mind you can in the VVS/VKS flanker.

What a joke. Even US intelligence reported PL-15 has range > 200km. Thats what triggered the US to develop the AIM-260

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Okay, no need to pursue it anymore, it’s just a lie.

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We overinflate technologies of adversaries to generate funding. We conduct propaganda and establish fear in our own population to support the military industrial complex. It was a daily thing in the Cold War and it’s something we do today.

If you notice the US never downplays a principal enemies’ capability. Always exaggerates. There is no value in underestimating a foes ability.

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You should go and see the FOX 3 missile thread.

PL-15 maximum range: >200km
R-77-1 maximum range: 110km
If we can’t agree with how missile performs it would be meaningless to continue discussing.

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It’s just ridiculous, maybe it’s a ballistic range, I’ll believe it.Missiles of similar dimensions, yes, the PL-15 has slightly lower resistance at transonic speed, the range may be better by 20-30 km, but not 90.So 200km is just a fairy tale, more for morons, but not for specialists

BTW the AIM-260 is supposed to have similar dimensions to existing AIM-120 but will have > 200km range. I guess it is fairy tale too.

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It is worth to mention that Irbis is monopulse hybrid ESA radar because it has posibilities as both PESA and AESA radars. PESA 'cause N035 has those two TWT in tranmitter channel and two receiver units in receive channel ( high and low frequency receivers). Besides this it has phased array with about 1800 TR elements . AESA 'cause it has so called hybrid -heterodyne waveguide system in phased array. With that N035 can send many signals with different working frequencies simultaneously and with very high frequency agility just like all real AESA radars .
Irbis has the capability of digital heterodyning, therefore it has the capability not only of AESA, but also of DAR or a digital antenna array.

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Chinese AESA not GaN. now no one country don’t have serial AESA on plane, based on GaN

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From the history of the “backwardness” of Russian/Soviet-made avionics for a number of “experts” for reference…
A method for obtaining gallium nitride…

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During 2010, at the Institute of Microwave Semiconductor Electronics (ISHPE) Field-effect transistors with Ft = 77.3 GHz and Fmax = 177 GHz having a power gain of more than 11.5 dB at a frequency of 35 GHz were manufactured using AlGaN/AlN/GaN heterostructures of domestic production (Elma-Malachite CJSC). For the first time in Russia, the MIS of a three-stage power amplifier in the frequency range 27-37 GHz with a Cr > 20 dB and a maximum output power of 300 MW in pulse mode was developed and successfully implemented on the basis of transistors.

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Just random J-11 bonding.

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omg das me :))

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There’s something I need to explain to you…If the engine has been given a name, it means that it has passed State tests and is in mass production…Information about the AL-51-F1 under this name appeared in August 2023…There is no discrepancy with the plans of the ODK (United Engine Building Corporation)…This is a priority program for the Su-57/Su-35S(M)/Su-75/Su-30SM2/S-70 Hunter/Su-34…She’s fine considering the SVO factor…

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already