Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

I don’t understand what “cooperation with Russia” means in this material, theoretically, I only know about a “pearl” radar.

I see, this actually refers to the Russian RP-35 “Pearl” radar

I did get it wrong, because I forgot that China has cooperation with Russia in various aspects, including the RP-35 that was inspected in 2009.

Yeah, didn’t see that, still that power consumption, 0.5m^2 antenna, 1/3 of N007’s 1.54, yet 2/3 of the power.

  1. You were shown a photo-find the differences!
  2. You do not understand the basic things _Radar and Antenna array are different systems (the Slit Antenna array was not installed in Russian, but it was installed in export ones)…
    3.SUV (weapons control system) and radar are also different systems…
    4.For some missiles, an SUV upgrade is enough. for some missiles, a radar upgrade is needed, while the names will be similar…
Spoiler

Снимок экрана 2024-12-01 192825

In 2002, the two countries negotiated the purchase of the Su-30MK2 for the Naval Forces of the People’s Liberation Army of China (PLANAF). This variant had a revised weapon control system for the X-31 air-to-surface missile. The contract for the construction of KnAAPO 24 aircraft was signed in early 2003. All of them were delivered in 2004…
In mid-2002, SAC announced its intention to create an upgraded multipurpose version of the J-11 capable of carrying air-to-air and air-to-ground guided missiles and containing more Chinese components. The aircraft was designated J-11B. At least three copies of the J-11B have been built for testing since 2006.

I’ve read this post and it still has nothing to do with “J-11B using bad Russian radars.”

This guy deliberately keeps a blind eye to the info on 1493 radar collected above.

I’m used to some people saying that “Chinese weapons are all Russian copies”, and it’s impossible for you to reason with such people.

The system seen with N001VEP is known as RLPK-27 or (RPLK, can’t remember), which has nothing to do with J11B. RLPK-27 also includes the fire control computer systems as well as IRST.
Slit antenna is an antenna design seen with Zhuk, there are no sources suggesting Su30MK2s even mount them, it is evidently a tested cassegrain antenna, which can not act through phased array.

Ya, Su30MK2 mounts N001VEP which is still the same bad radar with just more air to surface modes over Su30MKK

Exactly, this guy can’t even understand. N001VEP = RLPK27 in terms of radar, and it is not Zhuk.

The only Zhuk radar that was ever used by China should be the export only F-8IIM.

There is absolutely no relation between the N001VEP and the Type 1493.
Type 1493 is a successor radar to Type 1492 employed on the J-8F.
You also ignore the radar’s characteristics and performance metrics that I have stated above. It performs very differently to N001VEP.

What are you attempting to refute with a photoshopped image? The flanker in this picture is stretched and enlarged by 30%. The fact that you don’t confirm the reliability of a message before quoting it is enough to cast doubt on all the veracity of the source you’re quoting.

Never mind that is a J16 which is more like a J11BS derivation.

mtuPSRMXR6w

u_ff80cee50a998f39618c59bee6512083_800

The height of the MiG-29 is 4.73 meters, the J-20 is 4.69 meters…

You are forcing the perspective incorrectly, here is the Su-30MKK (same wing and length dimensions) in the first photo and J-16 in the second.

image

1 Like

For some reason, the visitors did not like the photo!.
I posted the original with the manufacturer’s watermarks…
The Su-30 airframe is 1.67 meters taller.The wingspan is more than 1.7 meters…
The height is determined by the level of the tail tips…
Visually, the main role is played by the height in the cockpit area…

The J-16 is certainly larger, but not by such a significant margin as implied in the photo you posted.

That phot makes use of forced perspective to trick you into seeing things that aren’t there.