Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

[不是很能抗压]

Bugs fixed, thanks to my Chinese forum friends

[NCC105]

what bug?

[MightyBaozi]

Shenyang J-15 (2013)

poll J-15 Flying Shark [j-15 moon] Background and History

Spoiler

Initial Deal: The history of China’s first carrier borne fighter is directly connected to failing indigenous designs and the successful production and deployment of the J-11 and J-11A. In fact, not long after the acquisition of what eventually became the Liaoning, China sought to fill the hangars of this newly reconstructed aircraft carrier with Su-33s. Allegedly, by 2006 there were talks between China and Russia about a p…

[MightyBaozi]

Shenyang J-16 - Batch 02

poll J-16 Divine Dragon Batch 02 [7bee894181fcd23c8dded3e3ff9625a1acdf9e39] Background and History

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Origins: The so-called “Divine Dragon” lays its origins, as with most Chinese flankers, in the ever changing relationship between China and Russia. China sought Russia’s help when it came to boasting a flanker with multirole capabilities, with the former offering the personalised Su-30MKK. After the purchase, a consequent acquisition of Su-30MK2s was expected from China, but the lo…

Shenyang J-16D - Stepping into Electronic Warfare

poll Shenyang J-16D PLAAF [e455ab157ad77d58be40e45f6f507cc5cc21158c_2_1000x657] Background and History

Origins of the J-16 platform

Origins: The so-called “Divine Dragon” lays its origins, as with most Chinese flankers, in the ever changing relationship between China and Russia. China sought Russia’s help when it came to boasting a flanker with multirole capabilities, with the former offering the personalised Su-30MKK. After the purchase, a consequent acquisition of Su-30MK2s was expect…

[卡缇娅还想再躺九下]

SU-27UBK with PL-12 missile

[141_allen]

I seriously could not tell but could it be PL11? Anyway it’s unclear and this seem to be a oneoff

[卡缇娅还想再躺九下]

No,that’s PL-12

[MapleVII-live]

Source?

[llSolitairell-psn]

the central fins on the PL-11 are much larger than the tail fins, they look the same size in that photo so I’d say that’s a PL-12.

[141_allen]

Could just be a model of PL12 or a training round.

[ghuy99907]

J16 and JH7A can carry YL-5 (YJ1000) guided bomb.

[ghuy99907]

SU-30MKK and SU-30MK2 can use KH29TE, which has a longer range than KH-29T.

[MightyBaozi]

I’ll add this to the J-16 suggestion.

[MightyBaozi]

Shenyang J-11BG - The 4.5 gen MLU program

poll Shenyang J-11BG PLAAF [GKz1YJeXQAAoJXU] Note: All the information regarding the J-11BG is applicable to the J-11BHG since the aircraft is the same. Background and History

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Keeping the J-11B effective: Since early 2016 there were speculations of a mid life update, usually defined as MLU, for the numerous J-11Bs that was supposed to boost the capabilities of said platform and keep it relevant for the years to come. As we’ve seen with other countries, MLUs are a relatively che…

Shenyang J-11BHG - The Navy's better J-11B

poll Shenyang J-11BHG PLAN [Ftw0FKlWcAEhivk] Note: All the information regarding the J-11BG is applicable to the J-11BHG since the aircraft is the same. Background and History

Origins of the J-11BG/BHG

Keeping the J-11B effective: Since early 2016 there were speculations of a mid life update, usually defined as MLU, for the numerous J-11Bs that was supposed to boost the capabilities of said platform and keep it relevant for the years to come. As we’ve seen with other countries, MLUs …

[七色的人偶使]

Errrr…The photo shows that J-11 has ability to carry more than 2*R27ETs, right?

[MiG_23M]

Gaijin is aware of the fact that they can use R-27ET in every station - it is a balancing decision to limit them to two per aircraft afaik. Any word on this before someone submits a report? @Gunjob

[Gunjob]

I’m not aware of it being a balancing decision, you’re free to report it.

[ID_Heaven]

How should missile placed between engines work? Nose obstructs FoV.

[MiG_23M]

@Gunjob

you’re free to report it

Are images sufficient or do I need more than that?

[MiG_23M]

These seekers are on a gimbal, presumably it is launched at targets below the aircraft.
Although I don’t see how the nose is going to obstruct the FoV any more than the R-77’s which is active off the rail in ACM range whether target is above aircraft or not. I suppose it will work the same way for ET’s.