Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

Gonna rant here

I’m still puzzled as to why Gaijin thought this J-11A was a good idea

This plane is so frustrating to play

You have one pathetic datalink channel meaning you’ll never guide more than one missile at once, you have a buggy radar that will lose lock for no reason and same for ACM mode, you have a 10km HMD / ACM mode and a trash RWR. And to top it off you have the R-77 which is amongst the worst Fox 3s currently.

When did they think it made sense that we would grind THIS plane right after the J-11. And it’s so frustrating when you play the J-8F because you notice how great the PL-12, you know, the missile you don’t have on the damn top tier chinese Flanker.

The avionics are so laughably bad it’s night and day when you jump from this to NATO top tier jets

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If I had to guess their logic was “Give everyone Fox-3 carrier” and then it came to China they just went with laziest option (heck, it even have blue Su-27SM pilons!), yet not the laziest (which would be actually good option of giving AIM-120 to ROC’s F-16 and up it BR alongside with giving it IRCCM missiles)

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Gaijin could have simply combined J-8F and J-11 to form J-11B,having both unique Chinese missile weapons and the ability to counter Bluefor for Redfor.
However they just copy SU27 and gave ARH missiles

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But they did think so. it’s like “it’s balanced before, so give everyone a arh missile will still be balanced.”

I think there are 2 reason, 1 is China TT need a plane with SARH missile and IRCCM missile, in that place(J-8IIM?), untile something can take it’s place or it won’t leave it’s position. 2 is, 3 arh carrieers in one update could be too much, you can’t get more than a new arh carrier and a old plane added arh.

We have 0 data (IDK if there are, but no precise authorised ones) on J10A radar, engine FBW or weaponary, same could be said about Eurofighter, specifications are relatively less classified, but still unclear as to accuracy. Fact that J10A was assessed with JAS39C (Thai ones, assume to be C to stay consistent with in game one for reference), and was considered less capable in a close quatre combat. This assessment I think is fair and double engine should allow better maneuverability. (assessment made based on J11 vs J10 and J11 vs JAS39)

That’s a tragedy

Gaijin should’ve known China would have many many options when it comes to Rank 8 top tier jets with ARH

They are gimping the nation for no reason

At this point I’m hoping that they give China combined tree the Mirage 2K-EI in the September patch to at the very least give them a solid air-air fighter, that plane has no A-G capabilities but would be a fine option.

Honestly surprised we haven’t gotten that thing yet, it’s a pretty simple copy paste.

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This would require removing some vehicles from China (Which I am all for) Like the F86, F100, F104, F16 etc. I think this would be a good move. However, when you have a lineup of only a dozen birds it makes moving to top tier strange. They also balance based on this the RP needed etc. You would get an aviation tech tree with helicopter like ungodly RP for advancement.

The F-CK-1 is another good option.

Taiwan in game should also see the F16C Block 70 and F16V once we get to that point.

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As much as I’d love the f-ck-1, gaijin would have to model it, so that means it’s not likely to be added any time soon. The mirage is copy paste so they’re more likely to add it.

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If gaijin doesn’t give us this camo im gonna cry

I feel like that’s a photoshot picture, no reason but just that the lighting and shade doesn’t look right.
edit, the guys user name is CG so…

So you don’t think it carries some form of kd-88’s?

I think I accidentally deleted the message somehow? Don’t know how that happened. Anywho they’re yj-83k’s

No just that this particular pic is made by CG.
I found his weibo account, mostly CG stuff like a photo of what China’s third aircraft carrier would be like with J31 on it. There are some real stuff but…

Ah… well here’s more of these missiles anyways
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This is where you J15 photo came from


pretty well done

So maybe we won’t get funny anti ship missiles, but I still want the test dummy camo.

JH7A should have them but pretty useless in WT RN.
Camo is really what we want