I am making a suggestion for the Su-30MKK, i am wondering what series of R-27 the Su-30MKK uses?
I have seen it equipped with R-27EP
The SU-30MKK is long overdue and there isn’t really a point suggesting it, something better would be the J-11BHG or J-15B since both of those are pretty unique and modern.
We could’ve gotten the SU-30MKK this update anyways so it would be dead on arrival in future updates
I wouldn’t be as negative since every aircraft that you’ve stated wouldn’t be dead on arrival, what i think we should look for is either J-15 base or J-10A.
Nothing wrong with writing a suggestion is there?
Never said anything like that, all I said is that something like the J-11BHG or J-15D (as future additions alongside the Eurofighter) would be more meaningful since the SU-30MKK would be dead on arrival and wouldn’t actually have anything unique about it besides being a outright C&P of already existing Russian/Chinese aircraft.
The N001VE and whatever modern or old RWR it has wouldn’t make up for the 400k RP grind unless its collapsed with a vehicle like the J-11A
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How would the Su-30MKK feel dead on arrival? Wouldn’t it have something new in terms of avionics and armament? Ordinance for CAS? Radar, RWR and other things that still would improve on the current J-11A?
The SU-30MKK can use the N001VEP for earlier production batches and the Zhuk-MS and Zhuk-MSE for later batches. The N001VEP wouldn’t be that good compared to its NATO counterpart but I’m not that sure if the Zhuk-MS/MSE would be significantly better as well.
It would have access to the Pastel RWR which would significantly be better than what China currently has in-game (the SPO-15LM) but this is just the standard at this point so nothing special.
Ordinance wise it should be near identical to the SU-27SM excluding one or two things (I predict) so nothing mindboggling here as well. And for avionics it would be meh to decent for simulator players (if those actually exist).
Conclusion: We should’ve gotten this already as a the Chinese counterpart for the SU-27SM, for future patches however it would be a bit lacklustre and do everything the J-11B could do but worse.
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Got it but i still feel like either the J-15 or the J10A would be good additions next update or in the few next ones. J-10A would provide some CAS options for China (JH7A-II would still be the real upgrade until we hit better stuff)
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I only had the J-11BHG and J-15B in mind as future additions and not next patch ideas since that would be ridiculously broken if added. I totally agree with the idea of the regular J-15 since it should be on par with the J-11B but for naval purposes serving a unique role.
For the J-10A on the other hand it would be a inferior F-16C, I’d prefer to see a equal aircraft to the F-16C instead which would be the J-10B.
Give it all its ordinances without restriction minus A2A and it would be perfect, the PL-12 and PL-8B wouldn’t be broken and it would be much better for CAS than the JH-7A.
It uses the N001VE Radar with either R-27EP, R-73M1, Or R-77E, but it has access to multiple types of atg ordinance, such as 3 x KAB-1500Kr
And how on earth is Gaijin going to implement the R-27EP? They already abandoned the entirety of Air Simulator so is there actual hope for the R-27EP?
It can also use the R-27ET1, ER1, T1, and R1 but i have seen no photographs
Was Zhuk-MS ever applied? I thought it was a dead radar that never got produced despite Wikipedia suggesting that it was implemented to later batches of Su30MKK or MK2. From what I have heard it was designed for Su30MK3 which never even started development as J11D/J16 looks far more prominent. Some other sources seem to suggest the PERO antenna to be fitted to N001VEP base and provide a PESA with minimum upgrade.
ANYONE have info on this?
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It uses N001VEP, since that is only an upgrade of the baguet thing, and it is based off the original Su35 prototype.
Only MK2 uses VEP.
No all MKK uses VEP, since that is the same as the Su35 prototype. The devs said all western source on J11A data link are wrong because their info are based on exercise data, which was a Su30 MKK rather than J11A, so Su30MKK must have 2 datalinks. Plus it is only an upgrade to the baguet 55 so should be easy enough.
All of my resources state that the MKK uses N001VE while the MK2 received N001VEP.
Ill dig for info.
The difference is only the baguet thing is it not? I am not sure of all Su30 MKKs but I am certain that all that are in service currently have N001VEP. I was looking at an old forum page which states they all have N001VEP rather than VE as that is what the Su35 prototype it was based on carried which was based on Su27S, but I believe the Su35 is T10-M3 version rather than original modified off a su27S. Someone has mentioned the N001VEP being upgraded to something like Zhuk or PERO but I have not seen anything to suggest this, can you dig for that as well? Cause I can’t access a lot of things.
The Su-35 was based on the T-10M, the Su-35S on the Su-35.The Su-30MKK has never had a Zhuk radar
What about MK2?