Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

If I recall correctly the first batch of the MKK uses the N001VEP, but those delivered after have a version of the Zhuk. That one is not so bad. It also has the much needed modern RWR, in form of the L-150.

And again, not entirely sure, but I think Chinese Su-30MK2’s can use Chinese air-to-air weaponry. And any Chinese Su-30 has guided air-to-ground munitions we could make use of. Kh-29’s to be exact. It is a decent option if devs are so insistent on not giving us the J-11B and the J-10. There is an abundance of information available on it, so they don’t have any chance to mess that up.

I think there is no proof of MKK using Zhuk radar besides some net rumors, so probably we will not be getting those.

Welp, I must apologize then.

Still though, I’d rather have that instead of the J-11A we have right now. Or a ROCAF Mirage 2000. J-11A is so sad I gave up on Chinese air for the patch.

I read that some Mkks have received an improvement in AESA radar, but I have not found conclusive evidence

Well well, IRL J8B supposed to be vs F22, so u never know.

My sources say it was the N001 VEP PERO which was some how a antenna of an AESA radar fitted to a N001 (IDK). I saw a lot of these but as far as I am aware, Both Zhuk and PERO upgrade were proposals for the MK3 which was never completed due to J16.

I have a suggestion for the J-11B Block 2 Pending.

J11B Block 2 13.0

J11B Block 9 with AESA (? Might be PESA) and PL-15 later down the line?

A suggestion should be made for the J-11A to receive the J-11B modification like how the Jaguar GR.1A has the Jaguar GR.1B modification. Aircraft upgrade modifications are already in-game and with the current performance of the poor J-11A I see no reason why this couldn’t be added (besides Gaijin wanting to be lazy whenever it comes to Chinese vehicles).

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They wouldn’t need to modify the visual model much at all, just add chinese missiles pretty much haha

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BR in WT is decided by performance, not the year it come into service, or why there’s a post WW2 tank in Sweden Tier 1?

This is just a joke about when they will get added, cause it seems like PLAAF keep their docs too secretive that even the devs don’t know how they are, so we never know when they will get added, this is nothing to do with BR LOL.

Cause your’s reply seems not like a joke like what you replied to…

Coping about the J-11A aside I actually don’t think anything will be done about the vehicles performance. I don’t see Gaijin improving the vehicle whatsoever so we’ll have to probably endure until Gaijin closes as a company (because this issue with China getting lacklustre vehicles will forever remain lmao).

Anyways, can’t wait for the introduction of the J-20 with PL-2s! Gaijin didn’t have enough information

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Discontent to state of Chinese vehicles forever a theme among Chinese players, I mean why is PL5B even in game, they produced like 10 of them in total.

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Likely because Gaijin wants to introduce the PL-8B as it should be - which would have IRCCM better than anything in game currently. R-73 & Magic 2 still heavily underperforming. Allegedly because Gaijin devs think reducing the FoV further will cause issues with the game engine.

As I remember, R-73 both have the ability of changing fov and flare avoiding(like aim-9m), but for balance, it only given the changing fov. not familar with 9m
so what we need is just a IRVVM missile, no matter how it is, unless it’s IR imaging like PL-10 and AIM-9X

The R-73 model that we have is just FoV and reduced sensitivity to countermeasures, there is no circuit to shut off the seeker temporarily. The Magic 2 does have such a system, though.

I remember the report paper from Chinese Air force talked about this ability(I can’t find it), is there any improvement?

There are other options other than the PL-5B like the PL-5C which could be introduced onto vehicles like the J-7E/D, J-8B or the Q-5L.

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Again, more modern IRCCM than they’d like to add