Then why is the R77 in game for Russia?
In Kiev, only the head was produced, not the entire rocket
Many people have been asking the same question without a response, Gaijin probably added it for balance but this turned out pretty bad however. I would also prefer the addition of the R-77-1 as the R-77 on the SU-27SM is especially ahistorical.
The current changes I’d like to see is the removal of the J-11A and it being replaced with the J-11B and the SU-27SM to receive the R-77-1.
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So is it historical and correct or not to have it on the Su-27SM for Russia?
Correct, he could also use RVV-AE
Ukraine and Russia continued cooperation until 2014
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God the J-11A is in a sad state right now. No cas and shit radar and only R77.
Is this how it’s in real life or could we expect it to get better.
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n001ve has passed, but not sure will it be added, though still shit but better. rwr, no enough information though it should be a modern one. cas, no possiblity
Currently MiG-29SMT 9-19 only launch R-77-1
I don’t know J-11B located before or after J-11A but 4th gen WVRAAM (PL-8A & PL-8B) and BVR combat (PL-12 & PL-12A) better J-11A 8%
Now Su-27SM armed R-77 only. But in the future Su-30M2, Su-30MKK, Su-27SM3, Su-30SM, SU-30MK2 and Su-35S mounted R-77-1/RVV-SD
I don’t know J-11B located before or after J-11A but 4th gen WVRAAM (PL-8A & PL-8B) and BVR combat (PL-12 & PL-12A) better J-11A 8%
The J-11B is much better than the J-11A, the J-11B has a new RWR (most likely the KJ8602A) which can detect a large scope of threats, it has multicolour MFDs which should be good for simulator and it has the ability to carry air to ground weapons like the Kh-29T.
The PL-8Bs should also be significantly better than the R-73E and the PL-12A should be harder to decoy than the PL-12, so overall it shouldn’t be just “8%” better than the currently J-11A we have in-game.
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I think the version of 11A in game also changed RWR, how would you install maws but keep spo15
sadly we have no information
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I also do believe the J-11A should have a different RWR but Gaijin is hard locked on it having the SPO-15, it doesn’t make sense whatsoever and especially when it has MAWS but not new RWR but that’s Gaijin for you.
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At least PL-8B good close range and PL-12A similar to AAM-4 AIM-120C-5.
but better Rb.99 and AIM-120A & AIM-120B AMRAAM ?
J-11B slightly better J-11A and Su-27SM ?
Well it is what it is at the start at least, then the versions of J11A got better and could be compared to Su35 in terms of avionics. J11A has undergone a lot of modernisation but it really is a line whether J11A is just a domestic produced Su27SK or it has to be the improved version. The MLU for sure is very capable both in terms of CAS and some had a newly fitted radar (unsure of specifics)
It should be much better since it has a new radar new avionics and new hardpoints. It should be much more capable if you have seen the cockpit, it has 3 MPDs.
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The J-11B radar is also supposed to be much better than N001 series and the plane itself is a few kg lighter due to use of composite.
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The devs and tech mods are having issues understanding the West and East have different names for the planes.
Chinese seem to refer to J-11 as initial parts kit bought from Russia → J-11A is the Chinese production of the plane → J-11A MLU (no official designation) where some airframes received various levels of upgrades ranging from additional MFD’s, MAWS, RWR, radar upgrades, etc → J-11B Chinese overhaul.
West refer to Su-27SK as the initial parts kit → J-11 as Chinese production (some also include initial parts kit as well in this designation) → J-11A where some airframes received various levels of upgrades → J-11B Chinese overhaul.
This creates confusion especially since the J-11A MLU (J-11A) is not a standardized upgrade, it was the PLAAF trying to get utility out of existing aircraft and get them closer to being at J-11B performance and not as useless as they were found to be.
In all honesty, the J-11A MLU (J-11A) was a poor choice of an addition. J-10A would’ve been far better given the updates contents and if they think the J-11B is ‘too advanced’. Failure from the ground up with no intervention despite major red flags where we aren’t even speaking about the same planes because the designations are mixed up.
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we should have gotten j11a instead of j11 in the first place, now we essentially have 2 identical flankers to grind
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I think PLA officially refers to all Su-27/J-11/J-11A as just 歼-11 or J-11. All those designations and their definitions are just invented by netizens but are just widely accepted.
Obviously the China tech tree is just getting minor nation treatment which means they usually get C&P from the major nations instead of domestic unique stuff.
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Well J11A MLU is quite hard to define, as the level of upgrade range from simply adding MAWS to even full J11B avionics.