Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

After what they’ve said in the report i’m pretty sure there’s no way we’re getting the new radar.

All Western sources are based on incorrect material. The claim that the J-11A was equipped with the N001VE was initiated by Su-30MKK with N001VE.

Su-30MKK with the N001VE has been misrepresented to the J-11A being upgraded to the N001VE, and this has led to sources citing incorrect claims.

Chinese sources state that the J-11A retains the existing N001 and only upgrades the FCS to guide the R-77.

Also, the PPT I mentioned is the one presented by PLAAF Senior Colonel Li Chunghua at Northwestern Polytechnical University about the Falcon Strike 2015 training, which is sufficient primary source and shows more clearly than other unreliable western sources that the radar in question was modified based on the N001, not the N001VE.

If the J-11A was equipped with N001VE as you say, then the number of maximum missile guidance mentioned in that PPT should be stated as 2 and not 1. However, in that PPT it is stated as 1, which shows that the radar remained N001 and not N001VE.

So there is nothing more to discuss about this, all secondary sources are refuted by primary sources.

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guess it’s official j-11a is the worst 13.0

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surprise surprise

and with every bit of information that gaijin have access, they still chose to use the J11A with 1 max guidance for fox3, analog rwr with no identification, same radar as the normal J11… cockpit???
after 1256 kills in sim with the J11 and alot of struggle to make it usable against any other top tier jet in the last update, this J11A is just a joke.

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the j11a needs to be changed to the B model. If multipath was at 100m this would still be somewhat viable

even if they do change that, can we really see it happening fast?

Dual guidance is N001VEP feature, not N001V(E?)

If your primary source is this image, why Gripen have only 2 DLs instead of 4?

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This picture says Grippen has 2 datalink but could perform 4 targets attack.

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There is internal report on this. Blue Vixen radar on which PS-05 is based has 4 data link channel.

The claim in the report was that the radar of J-11A has upgraded to N001VE and it have two data link channel.

And according to Chinese sources, the J-11A was upgraded from the Belarus 558 ARZ, based on N001, with only the FCS upgraded for using the R-77. That is, they only have one data link channel and it is correct to keep the previous N001.

What do you mean by revert, did it have more?

Well, even if J-11A got N001VE, it shouldn’t get two dl channels.

But Northwest Poly-technology university has nothing to do with the J11 series, they are a major university with leading equipment, but as far as I am aware, they are not involved in the modification of J11 radars. The work is done by 沈飞 alone, so their data should not be seen as primary but rather secondary. On top of that, is it possible for J11A to have undergone multiple upgrades, which might include a radar upgrade cause I have seen weird J11As with a different nose.

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Of course, this has already been confirmed by the PPT about the Falcon Strike 2015 training. They only have one data link channel

I said Northwestern Polytechnical University is where PLAAF Senior Colonel Li Chunghua presented the PPT, not that they made any upgrades. Read it again.

J-11A is upgraded by Belarus 558 ARZ.

it had 126 at a certain point in the dev server, same with the su27sm.

@_David_Bowie Sorry for bothering but just for clarity purposes, since its best to lose a little time now and avoid massive issues of plenty of bug reports being denied. Is this (Check the reply) one of the sources we can confidently use? or does it fall under the “encyclopedia” issue?

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Considering there’s some sources said domestic produced Su-27 is called J-11A, could the version in game be called “J-11A 558 ARZ”(like Su-25BM 558 ARZ in game) or “J-11A Gai” to distinguish from the original J-11A?