Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

IRL the difference between the SD-10 and the SD-10(A)/PL-12 is mostly only length and top speed iirc

ingame the missile is also called SD-10A and PL-12 so uhh idk what da point is here

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I’m not going to get into an argument over this. I’ve used both missiles, and in my experience, the SD-10 is miles better than both the PL-12 and PL-12A.

I’ve launched them at Mach 2 and they still failed. I’ve tried at Mach 1 too. I can understand notching working to a certain extent, but I’ve kept the datalink active until the last 5 seconds and the missile still doesn’t do jack shit.

No matter what I try, the PL-12 and PL-12A just don’t work.

consult da sheet if in doubt but, since the PL-12´s havent been touched they should be accurate for now just dont trust the amraams as that sheet doesnt get updated until the changes are live i think

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If those stats are correct, then the PL-12A is modeled incorrectly in the game. If the in-game stats are correct, then your data is wrong, dude.

where did the PL-12A come from

thing has no relation to the SD-10A/ PL-12 debate

My guy, the stats from that sheet are literally datamined from the game files…

to make things clear since there seems some confusion

SD-10: not ingame, predecessor of the SD-10A/PL-12

SD-10A/PL-12: the one we know, same missile

PL-12A: should be called PL-12AE and is a marketed upgrade of the PL-12 family

simplified

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What you’re saying has nothing to do with the issue I’m talking about. My point is that the Chinese missiles are simply useless.

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Community Bug Reporting System ([DEV] J-16 PL-8 Asymmetrical Mount)
Community Bug Reporting System ([DEV] J-16 TGP MFD Not Translated)
Community Bug Reporting System ([DEV] J-16 HMD Target Range Incorrect Units)

Well, these are close to my last J-16 reports for now. I only really had time to go over the MiG-35 and J-16 (primarly J-16) this dev server. I’ll skim over secondary sources etc. later to see if there’s anything historical that may be reportable but I seriously doubt it.

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i was thinking about to report that it uses the wrong HMD alltogether now that we got a proper chinese HMD for the JH-7, J11 and J15

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I do really hope they switch it, and it has already been reported. But if they want to keep the TARGO for now to give the J-10C and J-16 a more “modern” feeling HMD the least they can do is fix the issues it has. Accurate units and a box for locks would be a good start, and take 5 minutes to implement.

do you have the report?

Found one but this is really odd, not accepted but seen, but also not a bug? What does further review mean?

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/yq564wW3738G

maybe considered

i think it is best to make a new report

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Is there any chance of getting this report accepted?

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/ScdCGIW51Xgi

i need the link to the video where those images are from so i can report the HMD on the J-16


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I want this more then the j16

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the top picture is seen in this video

【【军迷之眼15】人民空军 飞行装具 专辑!头盔、头显、抗荷服…-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/3FQfoBD

Timestamp - 7:19

Im still looking for the second one

got the video curtesy of @Clangokkuner

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