Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

Just do it 33/33/33 between this two and a disgruntled Chinese main, who’s less than pleased their new jet is not unique enough

Yeah garbage like this isn’t helping lmao

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It is pointless 😭 it also gives Chinese players a bad rep.

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Would J-11BG be a better flanker than the J-16? Theoretically it is single-seater compared to the J-16 and thus should be lighter and have better flight performance?

Yeah but it would be limited to 6x radar homing missiles unless Gaijin gives it the 2x racks.
Irl though the J-16 is way more capable than the J-11BG, but in Gaijin’s world it would be the opposite apparently.

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The J-11D would get the extra hardpoint compared to the BG tho wouldnt it?

it would have worse engines (WS-10A vs 10B) so it go more in the direction of being a 11B with more missile , the B"G" would have WS-10B instead

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@ILuvAna_De_Armas looks like my flanker got a new damage model I ate 2 9ms like they were nothing.

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It would
But I highly doubt J-11D will ever be in consideration to be added.
Information is extremely scarce. We know more about the J-20 than we know about the J-11D. All we know is that it’s using WS-10B, has extra wing hardpoints, has an canted AESA radar, and an new airframe with high percentage of composite usage. If it comes to the game Gaijin will be forced to make things up about its performance.

The only consensus reached amongst PLA watchers is that the J-15T later utilized avionics systems that could’ve been based on that of the J-11D program after it got canceled. This is because the nose of the J-15T is very similar, if not the same, as the J-11D. So they could be using the same radar.

In War Thunder it’ll mean if the J-11D ever gets added it’ll just get the J-15T’s current radar, which is a copy-paste of the KLJ-10A from the J-10C.

If added, then J-11D would actually be good, even if Gaijin doesn’t model it 1:1.
At least it will have:

  • 12x radar missiles
  • It’ll be lighter than the J-15T and J-16, and have WS-10B
  • 96x countermeasures unlike the J-15T
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i am 90% sure the J-11D uses WS-10A still

Found only one Book source for WS-10B Series 3 so far; Client Challenge

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this sadly only counts as a secondary source doesnt it?

kinda annoying that we can only really tell apart the engines via their nozzle designs since china releases so little

Yes, but we only need two secondary, sadly I couldn’t find any additional yet. Pictures from an Expo would also be sufficient additionally.

ill ask around but itll be hard since the B3 name is a viewer name…

Actually found another, but I’ve nothing to prove thrust increase so far.

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yeah that is gonna be the next obstacle, tbf idk if there was a thrust increase at all

I doubt these will go anywhere but still worth a try;

[DEV] J-16 should have WS-10B Series 3 engines

[DEV] J-16 canopy missing tint

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better try then not to

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/UZiynZgCameG
This has been affecting J-11B since its introduction into the game and has been copy-pasted onto Su-30MKK and J-15T unchanged. And now it’s been copy-pasted onto the J-16 for the third time. Unfixed.
Good job Gaijin.

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This particular J-16 has had its engine swapped at some point. This photo, taken at the Changchun Airshow on July 26, 2023, shows the original configuration of this Batch 07 J-16, which was fitted with the WS‑10B.


During an MLU, it was re‑engined with the WS‑10B3.

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