I heard that the ECM in the new event is simulated using ground clutter in the game? It seems that GNSS can improve the hit rate against jets equipped with ECM pods in future.
thats absurd, there is no new seeker either
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welcome to the game since they made esa DL refresh instants, this has been a thing for a while, and that works only if youre looking down on aircraft and if theyre not chaffing, the missile will go for chaff if it sees it
Yeah, but that has to be ignoring all other aspects. In reality, PL-12 carriers have to commit so much more than their AMRAAM carrying counterparts because the fixed radars and considering their acceleration that ain’t ideal.
Also there is a point with some points others have said, PL-12 does have worse kinetics and with the new missiles I am starting to see the difference even just slightly.
IDK if everyone has this impression but I did get sidelined a few more times whilst notching by AMRAAM-Ds which previously happened very little.
ef2k aesa isnt the only amraam carrier
Most fight start within 30 to 35 km at 14.0 and beyond depending on who you fight
Starting by putting early pressure then push the enemy until you get close enough to kill the enemy
the pl12 ability to put pressure on another jet at those ranges is extremely poor
Yeah launch angles are better on the pl12a ideal for dogfight scenario but actual dogfight rarely happpen anymore and forcing people into a dogfight isnt ideal either because of third parties
Also good luck forcing people to get close to you when your in a jet with low cm count
the 120d issue is that its not ideal in dogfights and close range because its not as maneuverable but every thing else is good
Good range
Good energy retention
Good drag values
Can be launched at any angle
And it benefits from having a good launch platform
Pl12a overall isnt bad but it cant compete at the br because it lack kinematics
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Obviously the April fools event has teased ECM and bvvd has stated intentions to add next-generation IR missiles soon, optimistically can I assume that the J-15T will thus get a series of buffs that makes it competitive by the end of this year?
That is, with ECM + PL-10, will J-15T finally become a useable aircraft?
if j-15 gets ecm, other planes will also get ecm and we will be back to square 1
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true
Well fixed radar so J-10C and J-15T, their counterparts are EFs and GE and only the poor hornets have a tough time in this respect. Also just saying this ain’t denying AMRAAM’s problems, but just saying that at this point I def had more fun with my 5-6 games spamming 120D than playing with PL-12A.
What also I am annoyed at is the fact that it actually doesn’t reach designated range so clearly sth. is off. Although knowing Gaijin even if we pull sources out of thin air it will be just a 180s guide time update.
Probably largely because the platforms that those amraams are on are massively better than the platforms that have the PL12A.
I played on hornet and GE, so not the EF but still it felt more consistent.I played the EF back in dev and that was the same feeling, it was just far better at keeping your opponents from
a comfortable position whilst Pl12 is better close spamming amraam is an option, Pl12, not so much.
damn i wish i was playing your war thunder were range is so important
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Seems like the J-15T is the worst performing 14.7 for March (according to statshark), and of all 14.X´s its in the middle
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To no ones surprise
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Please note that Statshark’s statistics do not purely reflect air-to-air performance. The statistics for these aircraft are heavily influenced by their usage rates in Tank RB.
the Rafale and EF-2000, which consistently top the charts, demonstrate their strength by maintaining high statistics despite having a high ratio of Ground Kills relative to Games Played.
pretty sure ground/naval kills arent used to calculate the Kills per Spawn or per Death, not that it would change anything since the J-15T is that far behind the other 14.7´s
Are you surprised
not at all
