is a lock range bigger than any WT map not enough for you ?
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Here’s the thing. You can’t. And this will universally apply, I think in a year or two, people will be looking at say AN/APG85 and say HOW TF am I supposed to prove to Gaijin it doesn’t have 10km range?
They will have to either apply more common sense upon addition or allow some deduction when answering to bug report. Realism already failed, just use a bit more common sense to make the game more fun and balanced won’t be an entirely bad idea.
Not saying we ditch all standards for bug report but this level of primary source requirement will simply be impossible.
Which every single Chinese radar since like J-8F already is.
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it would barley be able to make complete use of the PL-15E irl, so yes i´d like to have a little more lockrange, adding to that it would mean you can detect smaller objects at farther distances (actually isnt the J-10C known to not be able to make use of the PL-15 fully cause of its radar?)
and a fighter radar dosent need to be able to do that thanks to DL
that is such a backwards argument, so we should just make radarless fighter´s now since they can just rely on DL from AWACS? is that why everybody irl is striving to make more powerfull AESA´s?
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its not like one of the major world powers made that its whole thing
sending F-35 to the front to provide DL for F-15s slinging amraams from further behind
there is that small issue called the “Inverse square law” there comes the point where simply adding more power will not help you anymore
but you know with what more power will help?
EW/ECM
It doesn’t seem that sources are actually hard to get from China, but it seems that culturally there isn’t an importance in documenting and archiving documentations. For instance somehow the 2024 air show was public and only one badly edited/translated image came out of there. There was also avic screenshot of PL-12A but no one had archived that site.
Do you mean this image?
that one is faked with AI
The AVIC screenshot was about the PL-12AE which was infact not archived but also deleted by AVIC, so you are right in that regard (tho i dont think anybody would have expected a niche missile like the Pl-12AE to be so important for a community, since the PL-12 is being replaced by the PL-15)
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So they made up the radar for the J10C and the F16 PoBIT by basically giving them logically similar stats to other contemporary radars of a similar antenna size, and then suddenly cannot be bothered to do so for the J15T and only the J15T, and this all seems correct to you?
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It is pleasing that the J16 fighter can mount the PFT15 pylon on the outermost hardpoint under the wing, which should be able to launch PL15/PL12 missiles.
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I don’t know if it’s appropriate to discuss the KD88A missile here, because currently the J15T is the only fighter in the game that can carry it. In reality, this missile has a warhead of about 320kg, whereas in the game the warhead is only 70kg, which doesn’t make much sense.
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320kg warhead for a 600kg CRUISE missile sounds very unreal
@Macron-Spokesman isn’t necessarily wrong regarding some Chinese material. Especially those aimed with export, the information is accessible to the public in some form. It’s just that some are often more vague compared to others. Otherwise, completely domestic stuff is usually only possible to somewhat gleam through export analogues, or simply unavailable. Some information from the shows are simply not documented properly.
PL-12AE footage from AVIC's Air-to-Air Missile Zhuhai Exhibit
You’ll often notice with plenty of in-show documentation, especially photographs, those that post them often ignore placards and signs for the munitions or rarely post the full content of the multi-page catalogues that are accessible.
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320kg war head is pretty unrealistic, IRL it’s more like a 160kg warhead, but because in TNT equivalence this may be say 200-250kg equivalent. 70 is tiny for 600kg missile, especially considering that means a 50kg explosive mass which would be way too small.
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there are a fair amount of pictures of the PL-12AE from when it was exhibited, there just weren´t any placard´s for it, that stated anything but its name
“Chinese missile testing standard” doesnt seem to apply to the PL-12 apperently, kinda silly
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yes, apperently gajin has their own standard called fly at 30km up at max speed and release it at a target doing the same
tbh i am kinda waiting for gajin to put the final nail in the coffin and increase its weight by 16kg
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and, it would be perfect if you could remove the PL-12 from the J-15, just like in early dev. The PL-12A is better than the 12,
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