Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

The 120C does not simply increase its range by extending seeker battery life. It features noticeably reduced aerodynamic drag, clear off-the-rail maneuverability limits in its flight control system, a higher flight speed compared to the 120A/B, and improvements to its propulsion system, providing greater sustainment than the A/B variants.

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To be honest, the in-game 3D model for the PL-12A is based on the PL12AE’s model.

The naming as “PL12A” is likely just Gaijin following the community manager’s logic—that the PL-12AE is merely a variant of the PL-12A—thus using the domestic “PL-12A” designation for non-export jets. This is similar to how the JF-17 uses the SD-10a in-game (where the in-game SD-10a is identical to the PL-12). However, the current PL-12A is essentially just a PL-12 (SD-10a) with a swapped model and a new seeker head.

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Do have to point out that jeff uses the SD-10(A) and not the SD-10 (since the SD-10 is a different missile)

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Thanks, I’ve corrected it.

So… are we just bound to get a PL-12 with… GNSS (pretty much useless) and no gimbal limit and thats it? no improved motor, no better agility, nothing? just a slightly heavier PL-12? great…

seems like it sadly, unless someone can find a statement from manufacturer that the bug report managers accept


I don’t comprehend the logic. I do understand that a edited photo is not a valid source, but speed was already accepted from a earlier issue


This will be fine for 120km statcard and 214kg, but motor? Nah.

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Im not good at creating issues, but i tried: Community Bug Reporting System

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Also made this, cause they forgot to add the double rack of the gnss only LS-6 250:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/yLuPC2OfA8DR

Has the KD-88A appeared in a airshow, or the export variant TL-17? (with description saying it is IR)
Gajing is not gonna accept logic, reasoning or sources that is most likely true, but they seem to accept airshow information.

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the website: https://m.163.com/dy/article/CI0JESGQ0517BR8G.html

claims it has 220 km range, warhead of 280 kg and has data link, ( but im unsure how they even got this information )

seems to match what other sources say

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What do you want to prove? IR seeker?

yep, it’s important to make the missile even usable

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also my issues got denied, kinda knew this would happen as basic logic is not accepted here

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KD88A has already received IR Seeker

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oh, think they added it while i was still in the game maybe

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KD-88A got the IR seeker in the latest dev update

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No, it used to be a copy of the KH-59, but now it has different FM and warhead characteristics.

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thx for telling me, did not realized a update just dropped, and I would have wasted more time.
Do you know by any chance if the Maximum allowed rocket release speed is correct?

Most likely correct.
There’s no data on the KD-88, but the KH-59 and SLAM are also limited to 0.9-1 m in real life.

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