I’m not sure about the SD’s but I’ve seen MK2’s with PL-12 and 8B’s. I’ll try looking at pictures later today to see if I can make any out… Can’t guarantee I will be able to though!
this is different.
PLA patched the fire control computer to make it capable of PL-12/8
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Yeah that’s true I thought he was asking if the Chinese ones ever used the RVVSD since this is the Sino-Flanker page
it was designed to use RVV-SD so of course
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Well I guess that answers his question!
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The radar itself is compatible with rvv-sd, was wondering if they actually used it on the su-30mk2 or if they’re reserved only for su-35
Idk if there are any J-11A fans left tbh, great to see it finally become less of a mess
I mean they had RVV-sd for sure, from the su35s, and they had another jet compatible with it, IDK but we haven’t (I haven’t) seen anything solid showing they used RVVSD.
its still a su30 J11D will be better than it as its far lighter and has same avionics J16 will fly similar to first gen SU27 mostlikely but heavier J16 is heavy but lighter than standard SU30 but heavier than J15 and J11
J-11d is likely still heavier than the original su-27s due to likely having integrated ecm and other sorts. It’s based off the su-27sk and not not the normal su-27s, which is 500ish kg heavier than base model
Huh? The J-16 series is based off of the two seater J-11s, not the Su-30s
Right but it isn’t as viable of an addition given that it isn’t in service with the PLAAF, but if gaijin is happy to add prototypes then sure
Heavier than Su-30SM: No
Heavier than J-15B/D/T: No
Heavier than J-11BG/BGH: marginally
Massive composite reworks should have covered not only that 500kg, but also modernised avionics shaves off another 200-300kg so in reality any chinese flanker with composite is a minimum of 800kg lighter than a Russian Su-27 export model, and thus 200-300kg less than the base Su-27S
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Yeah but doesn’t it have integrated ecm? Or does it have ecm using the wing tip pods? Ecm pods themselves add more than 600 kg, if it has integrated ecm then it would certainly add weight
Russian flankers also use heavy wingtip ECM pods, what’s your point? And internal ECM is like 100-200kg because it’s just a set of recievers and transceivers wired to a central computer
J11b from Chinese secondary sources state that it lost around 700 kg but we know how giajin modeled it to have only lost 150 kg. I doubt j11d gonna be lighter than su27s