Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

J-15 is terrible. Limited to only 48 cms like su-33, much more excited for j-16 and j-11bg/d that actually have good amount of counter measures (98/96)

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如果你是指J15原型机,那么是的,那确实是有点糟糕,那时候的技术并不成熟甚至雷达无法引导雷达弹(没记错的话是J11同款N001),但是当J15正式入列后换装了中国国产的新型雷达,这使J15A的作战能力提高了好几个档次,但是因为山东舰和辽宁舰都是滑跃起飞的原因J15A无法满油满弹起飞,这也就意味着她的作战能力大打折扣,但是在J15T成功在福建舰弹射后这个问题彻底解决了,更加先进的雷达,完整的数据链作战体系,能够满油满弹起飞,重型机的压制力不管在什么时候都是强大的(具体可以参考F14),至于su33,那玩意除了外观和J15原型机有点相似外,二者唯一的共同点就是都是脱胎与苏联T10K(甚至你仔细观察会发现J15原型机和su33的鸭翼安装位置并不一样)我无意冒犯,但是su33的电子设备真的碰瓷不了一点J15T,顺带一提,我记得J15T的干扰措施应该有96发
If you are referring to the J15 prototype, then yes, it is indeed a bit bad. At that time, the technology was not mature and even the radar could not guide the radar missile (if I remember correctly, it was the same model N001 as J11). However, when J15 was officially put into service, it was equipped with a new type of radar produced in China, which improved the combat capability of J15A by several levels. But because the Shandong and Liaoning ships both had ski jump takeoff, J15A could not take off with full fuel and ammunition, which meant that its combat capability was greatly reduced. However, after J15T successfully launched on the Fujian ship, this problem was completely solved. With more advanced radar and a complete data link combat system, it was able to take off with full fuel and ammunition, suppressing heavy aircraft. Power is always strong at all times (refer to F14 for details), as for Su33, besides its appearance and J15 The prototype is somewhat similar, but the only commonality between the two is that they are both derived from the Soviet T10K (even if you observe carefully, you will find that the installation position of the duck wings of the J15 prototype and the Su33 is not the same). I don’t mean to offend you, but the electronic devices of the Su33 really cannot touch the J15T. By the way, I remember that the interference measures of the J15T should have 96 rounds

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J-15 has 48CMs.

我认为J15T会有所升级,但是我找了很多图片,但是都没有找到能够确切显示干扰物数量的图片
I think J15T will be upgraded, but I have searched for many pictures, but I have not found any that can accurately display the number of interferences

there is

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would like to see the first production J-15 that uses J-11B electronics added, no reason not to add it. id assume it goes after the J-11B in the TT line or a folder.

thank bro

In chinese doctrine, the capabilities of their EW and BVRAAMs takes precedent over a more traditional chaff->notch system found on western jets, their jets are all equipped with some form of MAW, and all carry their own EW suite, besides 48 large chaff in coordination with capable jamming/situational awareness is just as useful as 180+ CM and mediocre situational awareness.

Dogfighting is not important to the PLAAF and PLANAF, do not raise that point

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most these are cold war left over, used to against old type missiles in low-intensity conflicts. for Chinese airforce, it’s not considered.

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j11b、j10a现在才发最基础的ncrt识别。
j11b、j10aJust now to ncrt。

it got NCTR?

Well it’s nice to see now it feels like F-15E but Chinese lol

Well it is partially copied from 15E. And then N001 and then N010. A mess.

A good view of the J-16 WSO Sim


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Does j-11d get air to ground weapons? If it does I think it will be best Chinese flanker

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wasnt the J-11D cancelled?

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Yeah it was, but it could be added as it would be second best air to air flanker china will have

There’s no real difference between the J-11BG and the J-11D apart from a different radome from what we know.
Both have AESA radars and WS-10B engines so realistically there’s no reason to add the J-11D.

As for A2G weapons they get their same as the current J-11B nothing new.

The A2G loadouts we have in game for the J-11B are already fictional so If they add any new weapons for China I font think ot would be an issue adding them to the future J-11’s

Fairly sure j-11d gets an extra air to air pylon unlike the j11bg. Which main reason y I want it

Can’t say ive ever seen any pictures of the J-11D with additional pylons (or any pylons lol), but id wager the J-11D was further developed into the J-15TH the only other Chinese single seater J-11 platform with a canted radome. So its possible