Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

Actually, the variant used for single-engine aircraft is the AL-31FN, as mentioned here.

It clearly said AL-31fn series5. Under the AL-31pf it look like it said somthing about 31F series 5/5-01. Maybe that its for flankers without TVC.


You might have missed some information—the English translation on the right side is blocked, but it means “specifically designed for maritime operating environments.” Additionally, the upper part states “carrier-based aircraft.”

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yea first time I’ve see these pic. The talk its always on 177c. I remember that the series 5 was because it have a gearbox in a dif position. But this 5/5-01 its new to me.


These images are from the promotional video at UEC’s booth during the 2024 Zhuhai Airshow. By the way, the AL-31F SER.5/5-01 wasn’t listed in their booth materials, but they did feature an AL-31F-3 ser.45 —perhaps that’s its official designation? Unfortunately, I wasn’t there in person lol.

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i wish i could go to some of these. Usually the people that go just post 1 or 2 pic.

Edit; it look like they are made by different company. Salyut made the Series 5 and NPO Saturn the 177c engine.

Is the 14000 kgf absolute max thrust at static? Or does it get an emergency power mode like say the 117c that raises the thrust from 14000 kgf to 14500

177c its 14500 kgf and 15000 with emergency.

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117S and 177S are different engines

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Its possibly that they use componens from AL-31FM2 (seen on some J-20), to upgrade or create custom AL-31F-3 and AL-31FN variants.

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Whoops yeah I mistyped, meant 117c

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Ye you’re right meant to talk about 117c engine

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177c is su57 engine b4 izd 30?

Su-57 uses 117. 177S is new engine not yet installed on anything designed to fit any flanker except Su-35 that uses 117S

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Nop. Its a like a new AL-31. With modern manufactory technique and stuff from AL-51/izd 30. Its has same dimension as AL-31. AL-41/117 has bigger diameter. 905mm vs 932mm.

Main focus was engine life. No power.

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I hope that AL-51 prioritize power over engine line. But everything point to engine life.

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it should have quite some thrust if their presentation is to be belived, no specific numbers tho

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J-15t only modern flanker in chinese service (that’s not su-35) that still uses al-31 engine/deritative then right?

I believe the AL-31F-3 Ser.45 incorporates some components from the 99M series. On one hand, the PLA has a long-standing tradition of deep collaboration with Salyut; on the other hand, the PLAN is currently the sole customer for the naval variant of the AL-31F. UEC has no reason to develop a naval engine based on other requirements.

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If modern flanker means equipped with AESA radar, you are right.

SU-30MKK and MK2 aswell