I ask you sincerely, without any provocation: why do you think that the PL-17 is worse than the R-37M? According to open sources and propaganda, their performance should be about the same. The R-37M has a range of about 400km and a speed of 6Ma: the PL-17 has a range of more than 400km and a speed of 6Ma. This looks like the PL-17 is better.
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I’m sorry. I got the rockets mixed up, for some reason it seemed to me that the PL-21 was a long rocket that was under the J-16 (and it was the PL-17)
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We have a small country and a small friendly population, why do we need so many fighters?!
But just in case, we have the most advanced nuclear weapons in the world!
Honestly tho, how is this relevant again? I can get the p… ahem missile measurement contest with their carriers, but how is THIS relevant? The tangem about “the only equal to US” is also, but at least it still on topic somewhat
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- Because this is a fighter discussion area. I don’t want to talk about irrelevant topics.
- I say this to attack the Russian fanatics. They seized on a flaw in China’s aviation industry and desperately attacked it in an attempt to prove that China’s aviation industry is still lagging behind. But when I told the truth, they could only report me angrily, which was really pitiful.
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As if the PL-21 has not yet been officially recognized, the data on the PL-21 on Chinese websites are now only limited speculation. All I know is that it could be China’s next generation of ultra-long-range air-to-air missiles.
I don’t know, I like both Russian and Chinese fighters. The only thing I really hate is the nasty US planes. Ugh, disgusting, lth-less launchers for AIM 120, flying back and forth and launching missiles, such a disgusting thing.
But you are a prominent representative of the Chinese fanatics…
Having no data on the design, power set and equipment of the J-11B/J-16 and not having official data on the WS-10 engine from at least some Aero show…You have turned the conversation to the quantitative composition of the Chinese Air Force, which is not relevant to this topic…
What does the truth have to do with it ? And what is the truth?..No one has argued with you about the size of the Chinese Air Force…
You have more or less officially confirmed data on J-11B/J-16/WS-10, imagine, after that we can talk…
I have already told you the answer: I do not think that the Chinese engine is the best, all kinds of data on the WS-10A engine can be found in this discussion forum, so I do not want to make another copy. What I’ve been told before: the Russian flankers have better maneuverability and a little better engines, but they are otherwise lagging behind China. Materials, weapons, radars, and electronic systems are undoubtedly weaker than China’s flankers in the realistic air combat system.
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In addition, what I am opposed to is the negation of all by one aspect. For example, it is argued that the Su-35 engine is better than the J-16, so the Su-35 is stronger than the J-16. This is clearly not right, we (China) also have the Su-35, it is good, but the J-16 is better. So we bought only 24 of them to quickly build up combat power and test the development of the Russian aviation industry, and the results were satisfactory to us.
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Also, you can certainly think of me as a China fanatic. I totally understand what some people think, if I don’t love my country, then who will? But a Russian player who loves his country (I don’t mean you, I don’t even know what country you are) shouldn’t be a caustic, fact-distorting criticism under the discussion zone of Chinese fighters. At least I never did.
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J-11B, 4 kh-29TE
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Really? KH29TE for J11B and not JH7? I mean, J11B 12.7, J11A 12.7 Mirage 12.7, where is the balance? NVM Su34 and stuff.
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Idk
A CAS Monster with 50% improvement than JH-7A
while Su-30SM have one more FnF missile than these 2 and it’s Kh-38 rather than Kh-29…
Type 1493 is still a copy of N001 lmao
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And you can confirm your words about Chinese planes with some data…
For example…
- Российские ученые создали сверхпрочный композит, догнав в этой сфере США и Японию
2.Armament_a could you specify which weapon you mean from the arsenal of Su-35/Su-34/Su-30/Su-33/Su-27SM you mean?
3.According to the pictures published above in the topic, avionics does not look better than those of the Su-35S…
4.Radar_You probably don’t know that the presence of an Active antenna array in a Radar bundle+The antenna has no effect on the detection and capture range of the target, and so on.You have the J-16 radar data…
5.Do you have data on J-16 Optoelectronic systems?..Theoretically, the J-16 has a better helmet-mounted targeting system (because it is the same as on the J-20), but there are no photos or specifications!
6.In addition, the Su-35S is a fighter designed for export (China has been negotiating its purchase since 2005) and it ended up in service with the Russian Air Force due to the lag in the Su-57 program…
And only a few people in Russia know what kind of Radar it has or how it is equipped with only the export version of IRBIS-E…
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Can someone with access to the dev server visualize this? I’m wondering what multirole loadout the J-11B can take (in terms of maximizing PL-12, PL-8B, while retaining KH-29TEs)
Oh boy, the loadout options…!
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