Also the report regarding 1493 was rejected… Why does Gaijin bother with adding J-11B when they know that sources will be scarce… No wonder why people leak classified documents, Gaijin’s report moderators are some of the most stubborn people I’ve ever interacted with.
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Do you know where this source comes from (regarding the J-11B)?
We might have a chance for the empty weight report if we find out the original document/publication.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/ZgrszJO0yiLi
Also, need SOURCES for a visual modeling error… What are they doing?
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No, this is truly ridiculous, it is a VISUAL MODEL, not even something regarding performance…
What the heck?
This is just the way it is forward unfortunately, we have even less concrete sources regarding newer Chinese vehicles and Gaijin can fudge the stats and “not a bug” or “not enough info” when we challenge them.
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Radar, weight, and loadout still hasn’t changed though.
Also there is still Russian in the cockpit.
This is going to be like the J-11a again.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/nDT0MWfBvHxu
The devs accpeted this, so J-10A will have pl-8b?
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We also need to give PL-8B J-8F. It’s hard for him without IRCCM missiles. Im ready for 13.3 BR
Yeah, would be nice for aircraft which actually used PL-8B to actually have them. Maybe after release and live data it can be raised for “Up to debate”. (except maybe for JH-7 for it might catapult it higher and it AirRB 12.7 ia already unpleasant. 11.7 GRB is pretty much nothingburger, there’s no 11.7 line up anyway)
I just care about the 1493 radar, Gaijin is extremely hesitant in accepting any reports regarding it.
Gaijin should just accept that if they want to develop the CN tech tree any further, we literally don’t have many sources to rely on other than what PLA watchers have figured out for any vehicle past like the 2000s, other than maybe some export product, and they should be more lenient in accepting these reports not only for China, but for all nations.
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I think they’ll just take the j-8f radar, add a little more range to it, and that’s it.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it is copy and paste J-8F radar with advertised 150km range.
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I mean, they copy and pasted the Blue Vixen radar stats onto the CAPTOR-M used by the Eurofighters, even though CAPTOR-M is supposed to be notably more advanced.
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Found it the image here:
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https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/388370135 and here: https://www.zhihu.com/question/354509731/answer/1974584495
Probably same spot you found it. It looks like it is from a blog. Supposedly there is a CCTV video where they say it is 700kg lighter.
Outside of that, if I can snatch the in game model of the J-11B, I can import it into CAD, get a surface area reading of it, remove the areas with composites and re-calculate surface area. Then I can compute the mass of the airfoil based off that, thus getting a good estimate of the mass reduction from the airfoil. Structural mass changes I cannot compute without a lot more information, but at least airfoil reduction should be pretty sizable.
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Every time, I am amazed at how meticulous players can be. For the accuracy of the plane, a person is ready to calculate the reduction of the aerodynamic profile, for the plane in the game. My applause.
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You’re the MVP of all this, damn.
One of the most ridiculous report denials i’ve ever seen…