Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

Well that is when we said we wanted the later MLU upgrade, since those are supposed to get better CAS capabilities. However we failed to prove to GAIJING that there is a type of J11A called the MLU. GAIJING have no idea what radar it has so it is default to be the same as J11, despite not having any primary sources they still have the ability to reject everything.

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Don’t worry bro, the VT4A1 has got AESA radar as well for its hard kill APS.

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Is the J-11A using the SPO-15LM RWR a bug or is China top tier Air completely washed this patch?

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It’s not specific what exact RWR it uses, but they don’t really care. The helicopter RWR are still not fixed, they use same RWR as 1970s stuff even the Z10 which is made in 2010s.

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How they don’t even bother to fix Chinese heli RWR just pisses me off.

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At this point the J11A as a whole should have just been a rank IV mod for the J11 due to the very minimal visual model changes and net zero changes to avionics save a single new missile, much like the Jaguar GR1A had a GR1B modification in its upgrade tree. I’m just extremely, extremely disappointed with the aircraft, and frankly most of the aircraft this update tbh

It is the same BR as Su27SM for GRB, which is unacceptable with no guided weapons and no upsides really. I will make a separate thread.

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Perhaps I’m missing something on the N001VE, but datalink should be 1 because it can only datalink to 1 missile. It can guide 2 missile’s at once, 1 via datalink and the other with radar lock guidance for a SARH; which that would match the PPT’s claims of 1 datalink target. Do we have information that says otherwise, that N001VE can datalink, 2 ARH missiles at the same time?

not a bug. it’s like everyone kown it shouldn’t be SPO-15, you upgraded it with maws, why not bothering add a new rwr. but stil no source to proof it

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Honestly play the J8F and have fun, i’ve been doing that and i probably plan on skipping the J11A.

It doesn’t work that way.

If you launch more than one, one will always lose the datalink. Guidance methods for SARH missiles do not have any meaning for ARH missiles.

When the radar locks on to an enemy in STT mode, it provides a better datalink signal for ARH missiles, not mean ARH missiles receives radio reflections and guides to the target like SARH missiles.

In the first place, there is no ARH missile that behaves like a SARH missile other than the AIM-54 Phoenix.

You can guide a missile via datalink until the receiver comes within range to track the return from the hard lock, but any number of missiles fired would be guiding solely at the same target… and only one would be receiving the datalink information.

It’s weird they added a top plane for China two updates (three?) and just gimped it compared to its peers.

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That’s a problem because it doesn’t work that way. For other radar, each missile uses a different channel when launched.

In case of having one data link channel, if a new missile is launched after launching a missile, the existing missile will not receive the normal data link signal.

Only newly launched missiles will receive a normal datalink signal and this mean guided only one rather than two simultaneously.

That’s my point, in theory you can launch two but only against the same target… and only one gets proper datalink information

Hi, not at the moment, I don’t think there is reports on PL-12 at the moment

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I think there have been several reports on PL-12, just closed by mod
PL-12 should have all aspect radar seeker // Gaijin.net // Issues
[DEV]PL-12 missile seeker problem // Gaijin.net // Issues

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Bold prediction for one year later : Here comes China’s most advanced Flanker the J-16 but it still uses the good old Su-27 RWR

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Not really that bold tbh.
Since they need to gimp every single new chinese addition anyway

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that’s fixed, something like placeholder data

It is fixed? Good to know.