Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

imo revert this, its not worth the trade off if the PL-12A buff is this minor (i think this is their attempt to fix the wobble too)

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Damn so pl-12 went from third best hobs fox 3 after r77/1 and mica to like 6th… looks like about on par with derby/worse than aam4

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atleast top speed is better now i guess? and at long range TTI is 3 sec´s faster (for the 12A)

another pull chart rip base PL-12

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But Gaijin seems to think that air weighs more than avionics… The PL-12A extended the fuel section while shortening the guidance section and warhead, yet Gaijin appears to have added 7.2 kg to the missile body after all the fuel is burned off… I don’t even know what to say.

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May I ask if you can add PL-12A,Derby, Mica, and AAM4 to the picture? I want to have a clearer understanding of the modified maneuverability of the PL12 series. Thanks bro

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worst Blue one is AAM4
stole this one
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both of the new the PL-12 and PL-12A are almost inside eachother
idk why statshark and ingame are so far apart

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Great

Absolutely unnecessary PiLi 12 nerf wtf

Okay so not as bad as aam4 that’s nice to see

check the picture below

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Okay damn so now pl-12 is some buns in hobs shots

Lol.

Gaijin couldn’t let anyone else to have HOBS missiles aside from Russia and France.

Lmao even.

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yeah and it’s a dog missile now. gaijin effectively killed china top tier air for no reason

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i hope gajin reverses atleast the pull nerf, unlikely tho

Glad I’ve been grinding Chinese air for 2 months. I’m done with this game.

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me when my missile doesn’t use grid fins or TVC

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yeah totally a prerequisite to making a missile pull

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If its sarcasm its funny.

If its not its even funnier.

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Those help a lot, but they aren’t required to make missiles pull hard.

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ASRAAM, Pl-17 be like.