Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

just a note, something a lot of people get confused on are the EW wingtip pods that the chart uses as an identifying feature for J-16D.



Su-27UBK, Su-30MKK, Su-27SK have all been seen with wingtip “Sorbitsiya” ECM pod. Su-27UBK is particularly nasty because the only real differentiating feature is the radome colour, which may not be visible from certain aspects.

Another thing to mention is that J-11BG is not on the chart. J-11BG can be identified by light grey radome.

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Yeah, it was a bit lacking. This one is better but missing some of the more obscure variants such as the J-11BG as you mentioned. It does have the Su-27UBK though.

Wingtip ECM is pretty much the only majorly defining feature of the J-16D that’s visible in almost every picture, so it’s unfortunately the only thing that can really be put.

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I mean, the J-16D features the low-vis gray livery that is exclusive to the J-16 and J-15T/J-15D, due a coat of RAM paint over it. This is enough differentiation between something like the J-11BS or J-11BSH which don’t have it. And unlike J-15s the J-16s don’t feature canards.


J-16D also lacks an internal cannon.

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Although it is worthy to note that the very early batch of J-16s didn’t have this livery, but you can still see differences such as the ring around the radome, and IRST that is mounted on the side of the cockpit instead of the center like the J-11 family.

Not gonna lie, the flankers look incredibly cool in this scheme


They do, the J-15T is now my favorite Flanker in terms of looks



It has that J-16-style low vis livery with canards

J-15D has the livery + canards + twin-seat configuration.

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Thats gonna be an issue for WT for sure (then we finally reach that point tho)

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I mean, I’m not even sure if we’ll get SEAD/EW aircraft like the J-16D/Growler in WT at all.
The Growler also doesn’t have an internal cannon.

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Considering leaks about work being done on SEAD I think we might. Plus “Unique vehicle is a unique vehicle” approach

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Just noticed that the radome/radar cone looks kinda angled, is this because of the radar fit?

Yeah, for the AESA radar.
Curiously though, the J-16’s radome isn’t angled like this despite it also having an AESA radar. So the model being used is most likely different between the two.

There is speculation that at least some components of the J-15T are based on the canceled J-11D, mainly the avionics and radar.

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did J-15D and J-16D cancelled the IRST?

Yes, they do not feature IRST, cause in theory they shouldn’t let it come down to WVR, or at least within the range of IRST. Should always take them down/suppress them before they get close.

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That reduces frontal RCS while allowing for a larger antenna aperture.

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Something about Sino-Flankers is so aesthetically pleasing in a way that makes me like them most, maybe its the more smooth coloration, not sure

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The default camo is just better.

Guys, do anyone has any info about J-11BSM?

Only mentioned in this old 2011 article on sina:
https://mil.news.sina.com.cn/2011-09-30/0958667848.html

Apparently a Canada-based East Asian defense review magazine predicted that PLAAF was going to develop J-11BSM multirole fighter with enhanced long-range strike capability based on J-11BS… No source stated, but it’s possible this elusive “J-11BSM” might have actually been J-16, which took first flight around the time of this article’s publication.

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