Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

Ah, that makes sense. I was really hopping it would be a better low-speed dog fighter compared to the SM personally. I like it a lot more for ARB and ASB over the SM, just wish its thrust was still higher at low speeds as well. Do later variants of the J11B get improved WS engines?

The Block 07 and 08 received the WS-10B engine with late-model nozzles same as the J-16. It remains unclear if the J-11BG upgraded from Blocks 02-06 underwent similar engine upgrades.

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J-11BG with old nozzles ( It’s impossible to confirm whether this is the WS-10A or WS-10B, as both engines have historically been paired with the older nozzle design. However, the new nozzles have only been previously observed on the WS-10B powering the J-16.)

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For comparison, two distinct nozzle types of J-16.
The old one

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The new one

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I think J-11b’s empty weight is heavier in-game than it is supposed to be. But the J-11b is very strong if you play it to its strengths. I had a 77% win rate when I was grinding mods. I have a 62% win rate rn.

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Nozzles look like the ones on the eurobomber. pretty cool

How do you tell what flanker versions these are? Found this pic on Reddit.

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J-16 and Su-35sk

no su35 on there

PLAAF SU-35Ss have a solid grey radome, a russian style blue camo with a grey belly, and… well, the Su-35S particularities (dark grey surfaces on the stabs, slightly different jamming pole at the back, etc)


I love the Temu Flanker, it’s literally the fastest Flanker in the game, the weight reduction and the thrust really makes this aircraft pretty standout, tbh is there any upcoming J-11 fixes that will be soon implemented in the next patch?

Hopefully radar fix + further weight reduction + PL12/PL8B buff although we don’t have much hope for that.

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The radar is somehow worse in track range and scan modes compared to Type 1492, the predecessor radar on the J-8F. This is pretty ridiculous.

As for weight we’ll have to prove that the WS-10A is lighter than it is, the current empty weight of the J-11B is the airframe weight reduction of 700kg +400kg of weight from the engines.

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I like it but the more versatile missile combinations on the original Flankers are superior I think.

It just copied N001 search modes right? with AN/APG70 stats minus the range of 60km.

Yeah pretty much, most notably the ACM mode is a copy of the N001 one.

The block 70 is so far the most advanced F-16 and since the USAF doesn’t operate these the most advanced F-16 USA can get is the block 60 (if UAE is counted as a subtree which would make a lot of sense). If China gets the most advanced F-16 and USA doesn’t, US mains are gonna burn the whole world down

Lol.

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Lol

It’s not scary. The United States can get some kind of Greek or Jordanian version, block 70/72.

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Can just get another F-16V. Also, USAF upgrade F-16C BLK 50 past block 70 standard (better ECM than F-16V)

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