Does anyone know what type of Air to Surface missile the J-11A MLU could carry?
There seems to be a decent variety. Would put it on par with current top of the line CAS I think… Maybe I’m wrong.
I have a hard time identifying specific J-11 variants, however I’ve seen what appears to be older models equipping laser guided bombs.
I believe you may be correct, found some images stating the J-11A MLU could carry both the KAB-500Kr and Kh-29T making it comparable to the MiG-29SMT.
Hopefully we get this over the base J-11A seen in most leaks, it would make it a comparable fighter to the SU-27SM.
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Yes at the very least it can mount laser guided bombs and possibly Kh-29T, I am uncertain the total amount of them or the sizes of LGB.
The thing is, does J-11A MLU use pods?
China has many pods, but not sure MLU can use, but if LGB is real, there should be a pod
Dimensions of this missile is exactly the same as R77.
In terms of warthunder though, it appears the chinese flankers will be inferior because the upgrades that make them superior irl aren’t modeled to any effect in warthunder, like digitization of avionics, datalink etc. The domestic weapon load is also inferior, pl8s are inferior to r73s, and its likely pl12 is going to be inferior to the r77. Correct me if im wrong
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:( wt reality sucks
well. in game, pl-8 is defined as 3th gen missiles, so basically similar as r-60m or aim-9l. the real sadly thing is gaijin didn’t add Chinese domestic 4th gen missiles, like pl-8b.
Welp, Su-27SM is official now, so hopefully China will get J-11A
If the leak list is anything to go by then surely we’ll get it.
Though the JH-7A with PL-12 also sounds enticing.
Pl-8B is tricky to balance, we are talking about a missile with the same seeker as a TY-90/Stinger. I am willing to be they will artificially nerf it like the AAM-3 since it should be on par with that missile if they actually gave it the dual band seeker functionality.
Why not J-11B? What would be the differences between that and J-11A?
Between A and B? From what i know, it can carry better radar. I have heard about it getting ECM too. It would just be weird to skip a variant.
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Well there has been a lot of hard discussion, I found and posted a lot of documents here proving the J-11A can use PL-12 but others have countered I guess.
I still believe it can though.
Anyways the difference is that the J-11B is a fully domestic Flanker AKA a 100% Chinese built Flanker.
Chinese avionics such as cockpit, hud, weaponry, radar, engines, etc etc! :D
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J-11B is considered to be much better than the J-11A. Finally ditching the Russian avionics and equipment.
My books don’t even mention the J-11A, I assume it’s just naming issues and call the J-11 Russian made parts kits and the J-11A the Chinese made licensed version. Regardless, these 2 are identical. The J-11B is where the upgrades and Chinese AAM compatibility comes in; I’m hopeful that the leak list just named it incorrectly and we are actually gonna get the J-11B.
as i remember, R-73 has full 2 anti-interference methods IRL like TY-90/Stinger, not sure about AIM-9M, but possible, all of them they need to be nerfed
Sorry I am a bit confused.
Can you please elaborate more?
What do you mean your books do not mention the J-11A?
According to documentation I provided the J-11A can use the PL-12 missile.
The R-73M is the missile that uses dual-band IIRC like the AAM-3; although I could be wrong, I’m more educated on Chinese missiles. 9M has no in-built IRCCM other than the data signal algorithm that ‘turns off the seeker’, basically it filters out returns until the returns go back to normal (I.E. single IR source). To balance it, I do think they will need to nerf the Pl-8B’s, people will be mass crying if they go against an IR missile that is nearly unflarable outside a long continuous drop of flares.