Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

However, it would be nice to lose more weight.

does the engine thrust matches the paper’s curve?


Blue is WS-10A, Orange is AL-31F (10,000 meters)

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As a workaround you could bind the ‘Head movement: upward-downward’ to something and just move your head a bit up each match, its definitely not a full solution though

Yeah I agree, R-77-1 is actually better in terms of range and off axis now, so, not a fair comparison for both to be at 14.0, especially not as Su30SM has R73 and TVC. Also the fact that J11A being same BR as Su30SM in GRB makes me laugh.

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I mean, to be frank, there ELSE you gonna put them? Ground doesnt have higher ranks nor you can decompress it that much (aka we need more tanks)

Well why not 12.3, J10 sits there, with better AA and AG weaponry, better avionics and manoeuvrability.

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I hope for a good radar on the j-11b, with good scanning speed. Its flight performance is excellent, but the number of weapons and the mechanical radar confuse me. Maybe it was really worth adding the J-10B? Or J-11BG?

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The current radar is still N001, just need to wait. Weapons wise PL8B isn’t added yet so, need to wait. I am annoyed about 6 Pl12s but same with EFs. Only issue might be the fact that it doesn’t have good enough numbers to go for F15E style.

Well, I personally never planned to play it like the F-15E. In principle, I am annoyed by this gameplay, launching missiles and turning to the base. Firstly, most players are already successfully avoiding missiles, and secondly, it’s super boring. That’s why I’m no longer satisfied with American planes. I will play the j-11b from a medium-close range, especially since the PL-12 turns perfectly, and the j-11b itself has excellent flight characteristics. The only thing that’s really frustrating is the number of missiles and the fact that the mechanical radar, even when configured, will be too inferior to the radars of the Rafale and Su-30SM melee kings.

I reached the vertical map limit with the J11B

Alerte missile? I take it this is a missile warning? And why write it again if there is already an inscription MAW?

I don’t know at all, it’s the French version which is like that

Perhaps snail thinks that in France, players don’t know what MAW is.

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J-11B stock with min fuel

I want 8 pl-12 ☹️☹️☹️😢😢

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gonna have to wait for J-15/16 for that, its just not possible with J-11 due to lack of landing gear pylon that Su-30/33 gets

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Did the J-16’s two-seat capacity have any effect on its flight performance? How much heavier is it than the J-11bg? And as far as I know, China has completely abandoned the production of single-seat flankers, the j-16 has completely replaced the j-11b in prodactions. Why?

I mean the point is to be able to supress enemy, getting them to notch is the objective in the first place in theory so that they can’t fire back. J11B lacks R-73 so will likely be worse than J11A in terms of closer range cause R73 is just a life saver at this point for me. J11B whilst turns well, can’t compete with TVC missiles simply because there won’t be a chance for the missiles to turn.