Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

what are the differences between the russian and chinese su-35s? do the chinese ones get r-37s?

Also, where do you guys get high quality photos of chinese/russian flankers? looking to add some high quality photos for a good wallpaper

I don’t think they get R37s, not necessarily even R77-1s, pretty much a ‘friendship’ deal, and they are mainly used for patrols and trolling with US spy aircrafts.

They also participate quite a bit in exercises such as Golden Helmet.

Also, Flanker flight model is a complete fantasy ingame, very horrible.

J-16 would never be able to fly like this if the current flight model remains and it is added. Gaijin needs to change it.


RVV-SD

I’m not familiar with Russian missiles
Is this export version of R-77-1? What is the difference compared to RVV-AE?

yep

Range and weight

I see.
Is there any difference to the Su-35S sold to China compared to those in the Russian Air Force?

China has Su-35, not Su-35S. I don’t know how they differ specifically yet.

I see.

The day the J11B is implemented in the game, do you think gaijin will give it the PL15? Will the PL15 be viable for high BR gameplay, won’t it break the gameplay? Personally, I think that since we already have Fakour 90 at a lower Br, the PL15 could be in play for Br 14.0, it will be a dual-propulsion missile that greatly increases the range but the evasion maneuvers are the same for all types of fox 3, that’s why I think this missile could be in play with the J11B and what do you think?

I think the PL-15 should be added when the J-16 joins, or the PL-12A. Because there is a high probability that Gaijin will not be able to make a dual-pulse missile. Maybe you should discuss how to implement a double pulse mode in your game.

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PL-15 is way too early, it is similar to Meteor in range.
I think PL-12A is more likely.

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Pl15’s would be op. With the size of the maps you could basically just shoot spawn to spawn and have a good chance of getting a hit.

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Well boys, we are so back with the new FM

Against Eurofighter and Rafale and even better Su-27SM… but eh, can be worse. At least the chances of J-11B (or outright J-15, I still think Snail gonna make a dedicated naval aviation update with it, MIG-29KR and F-18) being great are much greater

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Anyway, please give me J-11B. I’ve been craving it since this time last year.

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Next year hopefully…
At least Flanker can now actually fly well.

J-15 only has access to 48 countermeasures?

I can only see 48 countermeasure dispensers in the same location as Su-33’s countermeasure dispensers.

Are there extra countermeasure pods? It would take tremendous player skill and discipline to make J-15 work at top tier with PL-12 but only 48 countermeasures…