Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

Possibly, I don’t know a whole lot about the specific flanker variants. What I do know is that the Chinese models in the future will outclass the Russian ones. In all areas.

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The J-16 is probably the best Flanker in the world right now, however it’s a ways away I feel. But yeah, even after the base J-11, the Chinese are quick to upgrade their own flankers with better equipment. The funny thing is that they are also in possession of the best Russian flanker in service, the Su-35 as well

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The Chinese have the most advanced Flankers at the moment. The Federation however is still sitting on lots of technology if they can get their priorities straight and funding.

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Dosnt help that Russians not really making anything past the Su-35

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No

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The best flanker is the Su-35S

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No, not the best, stop writing nonsense

If the Federation stayed on the Western path after the turn of the century. Russian aerospace forces would be straight up cutting edge imo. Like insanely cutting edge. That country is so capable of printing money and so many untapped resources.

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Chinese flankers are based on the old Su-27SK,UBK and Su-30MKK, they have an old structurally power circuit, an old control system, no TVC

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Russian shills working full steam

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Agreed the Russians are still the world leader on high output engines and and aerodynamically perfect designs. The Flanker is regarded as the worlds most aerodynamically perfect design ever.

This is stated by US pentagon analyst as well. If the Federation gets stable and generates money like it could have, Amazing 6th generation fighters incoming.

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Oh that Su-35 that China stops buying further after 24

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Says the Japanese player in the Chinese Flanker thread. LMFAO

Don’t you guys hate eachother with a passion?

Yes, the aerodynamics of the Flanker are the best, even in places better than those of the MiG-29M

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Doesn’t matter, what matters is the sensors, weapons, and information capabilities of the aircraft. The gulf between even the most modern Russian Flankers and the Sinoflanker is huge in these regards. GaN AESA radars, dual pulse BVR missile(certainly packing better Chinese datalink and guidance capabilities), large-scale availability of smart munitions, and the platform being part of a much more modern integrated system means that the Sinoflanker is enormously superior. Arguably it’s the best non-VLO aircraft in service today.

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For the engine aspect, China is starting to catch up to Russia too. WS-15 has started onboard testing and is said to enter mass production soon. AL-51 is still nowhere to be seen except a few tests years ago.

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You are right bro, however the Chinese would not be anywhere near where they are today had it been for the Soviets/Federation and dealings with the French, Israelis & the Brits for licensed technologies.

The Chinese Flanker is greatly feared. But let’s not forget our roots.

The Federation gets back on its feet. Especially if they go pro west after this current government. They will immediately catch up.

I’m not a Japanese player though, stopped bothering with the tree a long time ago, I just recognise the inadequacies of soviet tincans

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Ahahh laughed, AESA has an advantage over PESA only in reliability.The rest is decided by the power of the transmitter, the area of the midsection and the sensitivity of the receiver.The Su-35S has all the same functions that you described and the R-37M

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why are ya’ll continuing your mig29 rivalry in the j11 thread ;w;

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