That guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Compare them at the same weights and they are identical. The J-11 has more empty weight but that is the only single line of code difference.
It’s 570kg heavier on empty weight. That is it. The only difference in the code is a single line.
Yes, empty weight is still weight at the end of the day lol. It’s the worst kind of weight.
You just contradicted yourself by stating the ONLY difference is a single line of code.
Than that means the PLAAF flanker is over performing regardless of my post stall characteristic claim being that its around 1234 lbs. heavier.
To put in perspective. That is an additional R27ER and 2x R73s hanging from the Chinese flanker that it can never shake off.
If it is performing on par with the Russian Flanker means it is already overperforming genius.
I believe this due to the Su-27SK that the J-11 is built after being heavier with stronger landing gear and other slight changes right?
Possibly, I don’t know a whole lot about the specific flanker variants. What I do know is that the Chinese models in the future will outclass the Russian ones. In all areas.
The J-16 is probably the best Flanker in the world right now, however it’s a ways away I feel. But yeah, even after the base J-11, the Chinese are quick to upgrade their own flankers with better equipment. The funny thing is that they are also in possession of the best Russian flanker in service, the Su-35 as well
The Chinese have the most advanced Flankers at the moment. The Federation however is still sitting on lots of technology if they can get their priorities straight and funding.
Dosnt help that Russians not really making anything past the Su-35
No
The best flanker is the Su-35S
No, not the best, stop writing nonsense
If the Federation stayed on the Western path after the turn of the century. Russian aerospace forces would be straight up cutting edge imo. Like insanely cutting edge. That country is so capable of printing money and so many untapped resources.
Chinese flankers are based on the old Su-27SK,UBK and Su-30MKK, they have an old structurally power circuit, an old control system, no TVC
Russian shills working full steam
Agreed the Russians are still the world leader on high output engines and and aerodynamically perfect designs. The Flanker is regarded as the worlds most aerodynamically perfect design ever.
This is stated by US pentagon analyst as well. If the Federation gets stable and generates money like it could have, Amazing 6th generation fighters incoming.
Oh that Su-35 that China stops buying further after 24
Says the Japanese player in the Chinese Flanker thread. LMFAO
Don’t you guys hate eachother with a passion?
Yes, the aerodynamics of the Flanker are the best, even in places better than those of the MiG-29M
Doesn’t matter, what matters is the sensors, weapons, and information capabilities of the aircraft. The gulf between even the most modern Russian Flankers and the Sinoflanker is huge in these regards. GaN AESA radars, dual pulse BVR missile(certainly packing better Chinese datalink and guidance capabilities), large-scale availability of smart munitions, and the platform being part of a much more modern integrated system means that the Sinoflanker is enormously superior. Arguably it’s the best non-VLO aircraft in service today.
For the engine aspect, China is starting to catch up to Russia too. WS-15 has started onboard testing and is said to enter mass production soon. AL-51 is still nowhere to be seen except a few tests years ago.
You are right bro, however the Chinese would not be anywhere near where they are today had it been for the Soviets/Federation and dealings with the French, Israelis & the Brits for licensed technologies.
The Chinese Flanker is greatly feared. But let’s not forget our roots.
The Federation gets back on its feet. Especially if they go pro west after this current government. They will immediately catch up.