Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

Looking forward to seeing the J11B, a Chinese flanker that truly combines the aerodynamic shape of the Soviet Union with the Chinese weapon system! Then again, is there a nerf in the maneuver of all flankers in the game? As far as I know, the flanker should be very good in real life, huh?

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The flankers in game aren’t maneuverable at all. They scrub all their speed as soon as they turn.

Flankers are underperforming by 0.2G in turn at pretty much all speeds, but Gaijin thinks the performance is “close enough” and doesn’t want to change the flight model.

Chinese modified SU-30MKK and MK2 with PL-8B and PL-12,


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Do anyone know the Chinese Flankers(especially J-11 and J-15)have ability to launch Russian missiles such as R73Es ?
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Early ones 100%, later ones not so sure, J15 original maybe but they should have moved away from it since PL8B/5EII/10 comes out.

I think only J-11, J-11A, Su-30MKK, Su-30MK2, Su-35 have photo evidence that they can launch Russian AAM

No, J-15 is developed from J-11B and origin T-10K obtained from Ukraine. It’s like SU-33’s younger sister, not successor. T-10K mainly provide the aircraft carrier adaptability structure reference.

J-15 has avionic systems of J-11B, so its armament should be PL-12 + PL-8B if I’m not mistaken.

It’s basically a J-11B with aircraft carrier adaptability modification I think.

It’s physically very upgraded. It’s based on a prototype su33, but upgraded way beyond that. Not sure what that means for its performance in warthunder but it should be more maneuverable to some degree.

Well being nearly one ton lighter than the Su-33 will help it, unfortunately it is still stuck with AL-31F until the latest batch, and J-11B variant.

They have plenty of thrust I’m not worried about that

Considering how in game Su-27/J-11 struggles with acceleration during even slightest turn… I would be

That’s a drag problem not a thrust problem. In a straight line it’s insanely fast.

True, but with enough thrust it can compensate drag issues, no?

Its both

Has anyone any information on the new J15s? Seems like in the videos of 001 and 002 dual carrier strike group footage they have a new paintwork similar to that of J16, but lighter in colour

It’s J-15B, a fully upgraded one using some of J-11D’s tech/design

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You can think of it as J-16 engine + avionics in the J-15 air frame.