The devs and tech mods are having issues understanding the West and East have different names for the planes.
Chinese seem to refer to J-11 as initial parts kit bought from Russia → J-11A is the Chinese production of the plane → J-11A MLU (no official designation) where some airframes received various levels of upgrades ranging from additional MFD’s, MAWS, RWR, radar upgrades, etc → J-11B Chinese overhaul.
West refer to Su-27SK as the initial parts kit → J-11 as Chinese production (some also include initial parts kit as well in this designation) → J-11A where some airframes received various levels of upgrades → J-11B Chinese overhaul.
This creates confusion especially since the J-11A MLU (J-11A) is not a standardized upgrade, it was the PLAAF trying to get utility out of existing aircraft and get them closer to being at J-11B performance and not as useless as they were found to be.
In all honesty, the J-11A MLU (J-11A) was a poor choice of an addition. J-10A would’ve been far better given the updates contents and if they think the J-11B is ‘too advanced’. Failure from the ground up with no intervention despite major red flags where we aren’t even speaking about the same planes because the designations are mixed up.
I think PLA officially refers to all Su-27/J-11/J-11A as just 歼-11 or J-11. All those designations and their definitions are just invented by netizens but are just widely accepted.
Obviously the China tech tree is just getting minor nation treatment which means they usually get C&P from the major nations instead of domestic unique stuff.
I had a look today and found a weird thing. The J11 has got the Chinese self produced transparent glass, whilst J11A seem to be still using the Russian glassware which have the yellow layer.
So Gaijing totally copy and pasted Su27, rather than J11.
where some airframes received various levels of upgrades ranging from additional MFD’s, MAWS, RWR, radar upgrades, etc → J-11B Chinese overhaul
My main issue is the fact that the J-11A is a straight up C&P of the J-11, with the installation of the MAWS on the aircraft there should be a display for it. This usually comes as a function on a MFD or on the HUD but both aren’t present in-game.
This picture shows a J-11 of a unknown variant with a MFD in the position were the HDD usually would be on the SU-27SK. It also appears to have the presence of the SPO-15 at the bottom right as well.
IDK, there are so many radars. The original J11B from 2007 and batches as late as 2012 have been confirmed of using PD 1493 radar, variants post 2019 are confirmed of using AESA radar. The rest are unsure.
I’ll be honest, there isn’t much to do since most if not all of the bug reports have been denied with the info Gaijin has. It is the same situation as Germany, China could only have the J-10A to cope with the fact that the J11B is too powerful to be added right now, the problem is that they probably couldn’t add a new airframe in such a massive update such as this one. It makes sense and we should wait for the next update and see.
I have to disagree, the J-11B in-game would be equipped with PL-12s and PL-8s so nothing special, the avionics besides radar will be on par with the SU-27SM and it would gain the ability to destroy ground units with precision (thanks to air to ground ordinances).
It would have a PD radar instead of a AESA or PESA radar as most people believe and the PL-12s aren’t that competitive so I doubt it would be game breaking.
Something comparable to the Eurofighter would be a later variant of the J-11B like the J-11BGH.
The PL-12’s are underperforming so we must consider this in any evaluations of future additions. The PL-12 should be superior to the AIM-120A/B in performance.
