Severe Imbalance in Top Tier Ground RB

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KH38 needs to be removed from the game, it was a mistake from Gaijin and also Pantsir showing how they only favor a single nation in this game and letting other nations suffer and rot in years of unsolved bug reports.

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This is really discouraging. I think having a limit of 3 aircraft flying simultaneously would be acceptable

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Either temporarily remove the KH38MT or the Pantsir. Problem solved. Whoever decides on “balance” needs to be fired.

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Id say make it 5. that way there’s good space for bombers strikers and fighters but will keep the ground fight still present

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Time to be the first post in this topic defending NATO against slander.

Your post has the right base idea; fixed wing CAS is OP in the game that needs to be addressed.

There’s a number of issues I want to address.

2S38 isn’t a top BR vehicle. Bringing it in your 12.0 lineup is harming your team’s chances of winning.
Ka-50/52 are just as bad as Apache due to not being F&F, any SPAA deals with them.
F-15E, F-15I, Su-30, Su-34, Rafale, Mirage 2000DRMV, etc aren’t just Soviet.
Pantsir being OP means Su-30 isn’t OP, and everyone knows Pantsir is trash against semi-correctly played top CAS.
Pantsir has a range of ~16km vs non-maneuvering reheating jets at high altitude.

Nah…
2- Not possible, anti-realism, and anti-player choice. If a team wants to intentionally lose by bringing more aircraft, more power to them.
3- Top CAS is already more expensive to spawn per frag than MBTs 0.7 BR lower.
4- They’re already working on this.
5- NO! NO! NO!
SPAA is needed that exceeds Pantsir, not matches it. I AM SICK OF CAS BEING OP.
And this suggestion would retain CAS being OP; the game needs Python 5 SPYDER, not more Pantsir.

I acknowledge your feelings and perspective, and believe us on at least the same side of balance.

Let’s focus on supporting SPAA powercreep.

@Alpharius11348 @_Ladies_Man_217
There’s no reason to remove the AGM-65, Kh-38, Hammer, and PGM_3.
And Pantsir is garbage. Saying Pantsir is competent against current CAS is peddling Russian myth.

We need SPAA superior to that of Pantsir, not equal.

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Spotted the russian main

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Too OP and broken, 1 missile = 1 kill lol

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Or just remove the KH38 until there is SPAA that is capable of dealing with them. Release the KH38 and new SPAAs at the same time. It’s not that hard to use common sense.

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Gaijin could also just remove the top BR aircraft from ground battles.

Already done, sim is split into eastern/western, and axis/allies at all BRs.

Gaijin said they would, but we have to wait and see.

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@T4T plays Italy and Soviets, they are not a Russian main.
That is no reason to remove all IR AGMs in the game, and I say all because singling out Kh-38 is defending Russia.

@ileaveuptiers
Anti-player corporate greed suggestion, no surprise…

The SPAA is in development.
On top of that, you’d have to remove all IR AGMs, not just Kh-38, which would be excessive work as well as anti-player ruining presets and realism, all cause you refuse to be close to buildings, tanks, and trees.

Or god forbid… not play 12.7.
Play 12.0 instead and get more downtiers.
Or play 11.7 where there’s a maximum of 4 12.7 players on either team.

This lineup, haven’t died to a single Kh-38 due to it being 11.7.


And Germany…

Britain has a vehicle that physically can’t die to Kh-38s in this lineup:

The solution is to powercreep the SPAA.

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Hahah, USA suffer said. I haven’t played with Russian tanks for half a year. Just because your US team loses more than it wins doesn’t mean the Russian T80BVM/T90m are the best.

Lol bunch of lies

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There were 2 - 4 Kh-38 spawners in the last month that I remember doing literally anything, and the only one I remember doing more than 2 frags was on Sinai.
They’re 12.7, and stupidly expensive to spawn, so they’re rare.

Outside Sinai, there was Normandy which was notable cause the CAS did nothing and there were over 5+ CAS in the air.

Like everything Gaijin pays that one to say

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The M1A1 and HSTV-L are the best tanks in the US, other than that they’re trash.

Because they’re??

All Abrams are the best tanks in USA, Merkava Mk3 is better for CQC, and HSTVL is fantastic.
M1A1 HC and M1A2 are under-BR’d for now.

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Ok, put 2A7 122B+ and T-90M at 12.3 then, there’s no reason they should be fighting weaker tanks

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Nope, the M1A1 got stronger turret ring and good shell at a lower BR, the m1a2s are garbage with a weaker turret ring.

Sure, when M1A2s go to 12.3 with them, and 11.0s move up to 11.3, and 10.0s move up to 10.3, and 9.0s move up to 9.3, 7.7s to 8.0 all the way down to 2.7 to decompression 2.7.
12.0 is already the most decompressed tank BR.
2A7 is a 2A5 with a stronger UFP and superior thermal solution.
T-90M is also average for 12.0.

@ileaveuptiers
I don’t appreciate your post attempting to make me feel smaller than you by statshaming in an incorrect manner.
I have 2136 battles across most of my top ground vehicles.

That’s also off-topic.

My Black Night quite literally stopped a Kh-38 in its tracks.

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