It’s always nice when they do this!
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am i the only one finding 320 big chaff at each pod of the aj37 a bit broken? also the pods on the ajs37 and the aj37 are not configuriable in custom loadout
Phantoms aren’t bad at all and all of them getting upped in BR was part of the decompression. The J/S/Spey variants going to 12.0 is a bit overkill, but that’s only because Gaijin arbitrarily decided for the top BR to be 13.7 instead of something more sensible like 14.0 or even higher.
It’s almost like the majority of planes at 10.0 and above got their BRs upped. 11.0 is fine for the F-5A and C, the originally planned 11.3 BR for the F-5E would have been fine and the FCU would have gone to 11.7 accordingly.
Same thing as with the F-5s, they were above 10.3, so they got their BRs increased.
They can compete even with their current FM, they got the 12.0 BR to be in line with the former 11.3 Phantoms.
The Kurnass 2000 and F-4EJ Kai have the same BR right now. They are both above the F-4S.
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Having a max BR of 13.7 doesn’t allow for enough wiggle room to give the F-4J(UK) a BR that is lower than that of the F-4S.
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Fix the type 93 its rear wheels are clipping into the ground and thus its suspension bounces when driving and makes its mobility worse
Other players mentioned before some odd BRs.
What’s about the Sea Harrier FR.1 and (e) Version…
One is 10.7 the other s 2 steps higher at 11.3
Planes are nearly identical. The higher one has 2 missiles more. That’s it.
Also pls review some planes at 9.3/ 9.7. Now a lot of enemy missile slingers ere uptiered and the best 9.3 planes will have an far to easy time …*cough … Mig19
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I totally agree with you, these Tornado need to go down (for some below the BR11) because we all know that in dogfight they are really not worth much. But Gaijin and many players have nothing to do with these planes.
These BR changes are so stupid I dont even know where to begin…
VEHICLES THAT DON’T HAVE AIM-120 or EQUIVALENT ARMAMENT SHOULD NEVER HAVE TO FACE VEHICLES THAT DO.
Example F-20A 12.7 ? This plane does not have the ability nor armament to go up against 13.7 vehicles slinging aim120s or its counterparts. Instead of decompressing the BR you just shifted the problem further up the tree.
Holy shit these BR changes are unbalanced and were clearly done by someone who has no understanding of the game nor the planes let alone plays the game themselves.
WTF is someone supposed to do in a F-20 against planes carrying up to 4xaim120s and 4 aim9m with a 45round flare/chaff dispenser ?
Seriously what moron looked at these BR changes and decided yup totally fair and balanced .Did they hire some new moron and put him at the helm of these changes ? The Max BR for realistic air should be at least 14.3/14.7 this is ridiculous .
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None of them should go down. The F.3 and ADV have to be at the same or even at a higher BR than the J/S/Spey Phantoms. The Ground Attack Tornados are fine at 11.3/11.7, just like they were fine at 11.0/11.3 prior to this update.
also i just realized, the mig23 ML can now face the f4C in a downtier what the fuck lol
edit: the mig21 bison can also now face the XS in a downtier
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i mean its the countermeasure pods or having guns so
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i agree with most of what you said in that post except that.
the mirage F1C(picking that because i flew that) is not on par in performance to things like the F-4J for example.
i played both extensively and pure flight performance, the F1C is definately worse then the F-4J.
the F-4J has a much better radar with better radar modes, better and 4 good SARH missiles instead of the mediocre 3 of the F1C and arguably better acceleration then the F1C.
the F1C does have the 2 magic-2’s with their IRCCM while the F-4J comes with only 4 AIM-9G’s but that doesnt really make them on par.
the F1C could go to 11.7 and it wouldnt become a balancing issue in my opinion.
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but still 320 chaff are enough to drop them like in rows of 50 to like kill every incoming radar missle
In sim mode F-15A has BR of 13.0, while Su-27 has 13.3. They are in different setups now so they won’t meet in the battle. Is it supposed to be one of those not funny jokes?
absolutely but other then the two rear-aspect RB24J’s, you have no offensive weapons either.
so someone that takes the CM pods probably goes for bases or something.
but yeah, its an overall weird plane with weird loadout options.
like 120kg bombs only? for a strike craft?
The snail, as usual, deceived the players. The premium American and British phantom was already bad at 11.3 in the past, since 10 out of 11 battles they played against Mig-29 and F-16a at 12.0. and now these phantoms will be greeted by mig-29g and mirage 4000. thank you snail that, as usual, players who support you with premium packages with planes for their money are dipped in feces and made to suffer even more
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I’m sorry but what in the hell is someone there thinking with some of these changes?
The F-4C, It was already a stretch at 10.3 in Arcade without CM and some missiles that don’t exactly perform the best and your moving it to 10.7? The F-105D and the F-111A, as it was these were way higher than the should be, and the F-111A historically using 9B’s is a WTF moment because all the 9B’s were being phased out or rebuilt to E’s when it was entering service, let alone from a game balance perspective against things packing 9L’s and freaking 9M’s now. If anything as is those last 2 should have gone down in BR or had some serious improvements.
And if this is over their carry capability - you seriously need to re-assess how much bomb payload impacts BR in AB because it means F all when the best case scenario without the other team being completely oblivious fools is basically one attempt at destroying a base before you get shot down, maybe 2 if your really lucky in the 111 cause the countermeasures actually work for a change. While being a joke air to air with their top missiles being tragically outdated with the E’s at best being starter weapons for similar range planes. And their facing planes that either A: are way newer than them and have better technology and weapons or B: similar era planes with way more technology, when it isn’t C: both where it’s a newer plane with newer stuff that unlocks things added even later in it’s service life. Sure it’s a bit of a laugh when I shoot down F-15’s/16’s of the ‘only spawn camp never play objective’ clan players (seriously you need to figure out a solution for that too) when they fool around to get them in to lower BR battles but it’s still ridiculous.
F-105 should go back to Rank 6 at 10.0, As is the F-111 should maybe be 10.3, even 10.7 would be a stretch as is but you want it 10.7 or 11.0 - it at minimum needs to have 9E’s to start with, maybe with an upgrade option from later in it’s service life. Unless you want to have a later F-111 variant take over as an option for 11.0 with comparable missiles to everything else at that range like 9J’s, and have those be the Rank 7’s till you put in the F-15E which more or less replaced it.
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True, but i would say it would be more on par with 11.7, its worse by a pretty large margin to the rest of the 12.0 but it is better than most of the 11.3s
Why AMX A-1 two br steps higher than the regular one? MAA-1 are more of a sidegrade over AIM-9L imo, I can understand 1 step higher ok because of high G it can turn, but why 2 steps?