Server Update 16.07.2024

i agree with most of what you said in that post except that.
the mirage F1C(picking that because i flew that) is not on par in performance to things like the F-4J for example.
i played both extensively and pure flight performance, the F1C is definately worse then the F-4J.
the F-4J has a much better radar with better radar modes, better and 4 good SARH missiles instead of the mediocre 3 of the F1C and arguably better acceleration then the F1C.
the F1C does have the 2 magic-2’s with their IRCCM while the F-4J comes with only 4 AIM-9G’s but that doesnt really make them on par.

the F1C could go to 11.7 and it wouldnt become a balancing issue in my opinion.

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but still 320 chaff are enough to drop them like in rows of 50 to like kill every incoming radar missle

In sim mode F-15A has BR of 13.0, while Su-27 has 13.3. They are in different setups now so they won’t meet in the battle. Is it supposed to be one of those not funny jokes?

absolutely but other then the two rear-aspect RB24J’s, you have no offensive weapons either.
so someone that takes the CM pods probably goes for bases or something.

but yeah, its an overall weird plane with weird loadout options.
like 120kg bombs only? for a strike craft?

The snail, as usual, deceived the players. The premium American and British phantom was already bad at 11.3 in the past, since 10 out of 11 battles they played against Mig-29 and F-16a at 12.0. and now these phantoms will be greeted by mig-29g and mirage 4000. thank you snail that, as usual, players who support you with premium packages with planes for their money are dipped in feces and made to suffer even more

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I’m sorry but what in the hell is someone there thinking with some of these changes?

The F-4C, It was already a stretch at 10.3 in Arcade without CM and some missiles that don’t exactly perform the best and your moving it to 10.7? The F-105D and the F-111A, as it was these were way higher than the should be, and the F-111A historically using 9B’s is a WTF moment because all the 9B’s were being phased out or rebuilt to E’s when it was entering service, let alone from a game balance perspective against things packing 9L’s and freaking 9M’s now. If anything as is those last 2 should have gone down in BR or had some serious improvements.

And if this is over their carry capability - you seriously need to re-assess how much bomb payload impacts BR in AB because it means F all when the best case scenario without the other team being completely oblivious fools is basically one attempt at destroying a base before you get shot down, maybe 2 if your really lucky in the 111 cause the countermeasures actually work for a change. While being a joke air to air with their top missiles being tragically outdated with the E’s at best being starter weapons for similar range planes. And their facing planes that either A: are way newer than them and have better technology and weapons or B: similar era planes with way more technology, when it isn’t C: both where it’s a newer plane with newer stuff that unlocks things added even later in it’s service life. Sure it’s a bit of a laugh when I shoot down F-15’s/16’s of the ‘only spawn camp never play objective’ clan players (seriously you need to figure out a solution for that too) when they fool around to get them in to lower BR battles but it’s still ridiculous.

F-105 should go back to Rank 6 at 10.0, As is the F-111 should maybe be 10.3, even 10.7 would be a stretch as is but you want it 10.7 or 11.0 - it at minimum needs to have 9E’s to start with, maybe with an upgrade option from later in it’s service life. Unless you want to have a later F-111 variant take over as an option for 11.0 with comparable missiles to everything else at that range like 9J’s, and have those be the Rank 7’s till you put in the F-15E which more or less replaced it.

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True, but i would say it would be more on par with 11.7, its worse by a pretty large margin to the rest of the 12.0 but it is better than most of the 11.3s

Why AMX A-1 two br steps higher than the regular one? MAA-1 are more of a sidegrade over AIM-9L imo, I can understand 1 step higher ok because of high G it can turn, but why 2 steps?

Mig-21 doesn’t have to fly with a full tank, unlike F-4C. There is no 1 v 1 in ARB. If you started your “sustained turn” then you will be a practice target for anyone with missile.
F-4C is a flying brick.

Ej Kai is one of the worst phantoms. Flying brick literally. No agile eagle, no HMD, not enough engine thrust.

Well, the EJ Kai has a way better radar, better IR missiles and more Countermeasures than the current 12.0 Phantoms.
The fact that it is less maneuverable than the F-4E, F, S and Kurnass doesn’t really matter as it serves the same purpose as the F-4J in air to air combat: being a missile bus.
The lack of a HMD is pretty much a nothing burger.

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Mig-29g see f4s/juk now. Funny. Buy prem package and suck r-73

Gaijin must consider having 2 30mm Defas, the Litening II pod and different ground attack loadout options ontop of the Piranhas to be a much bigger upgrade than they really are

But then again, the Sea Harrier FRS.1 late got 2 BR steps just for having 2 additional AIM-9Ls over the early variant as well

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Unfortunately, I have already bought either all the planes of the nation, or premium plane and I’m just too lazy to grind with them.

Mig-29 requires a skilled pilot, uFo-16 doesn’t

You can have countermeasure pod and a gun pod.

So it is actually quite nice.

And it incredibly bad it.
HMD allows the F-4j to engage targets at any direction , including from high altitude (multi path will not help your enemy)

Sorry but I don’t agree with this, tornados cannot defend themselves in a dogfight. They are much too heavy in movement and only have two missiles which are not terribly effective… they are more than easy targets compared to the others. To say otherwise would be to lie

You aren’t supposed to engage in dogfights with the Tornados to begin with.
The Tornado is built to be an interceptor and ground attacker. If you try to use it like fighter and engage in dog/turnfights of course you are gonna have a bad time.
For the IDS and GR.1 you are supposed to rush to your target, deliver your payload and retreat. The AIM-9Ls are purely for self-defense in a head-on or against enemies that happen to fly in front of you.
Since they have their seperate chaff and flare counts they actually have more than enough countermeasures as well.
Last, but not least, with the BRs just increased by a single step they actually end up meeting less threatening planes than they were before.

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Actually sparrow df produces energy the fastest of all sparrows but it’s engine last for half the time, so it’s good at dog fights (like the name suggest) but at longer range fights is bad

No more Air assaults for top Tier jets? so disappointed…

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The f20a has gone from being pretty damned good to dog crap through its FM nerf and game updates since it’s release.
It needs to have 9M not 9L at the br it’s been put at or move it back to 12.0 imo

The f1c-200 is fine imo, it’s very capable and has the FM and loadouts for where it’s at.

The j35xs has to be one of the, if not THE, most ridiculous BR change of this update

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