So… F-16A Block 15 ADF now have same BR with M4K, JAS39A, MiG-29G, F-15A/J???
What the hell lmao
Balancing team is still insane
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Why F-16AJ stay at 13.0 but same F-16A only at 12.7???
Why?
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devs believe 7M = 9M and HMD and bol pods
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why just cant let the same era fighter fight together, like why F-4 always need to against F-16 F-15, when they only got older missile? why just cant balance with the plane spec instead of player statistic?
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Over this patch I am glad to see a good chuck of those concerns resolved, including:
- Tornado F3/ADV raised
- Mirage F1CT lowered
- J7D lowered
- F4EJ kai lowered
- F104G lowered
- JA37C added
Those are good, but I am still concerned with the following aircrafts:
- F4C. If you were really that concerned with its A2G capability, 10.3 is the max I would personally accept to play it.
- F8U is intact. IT HAS CM and it is very powerful even OP as it is around that BR before the patch. It deserve to go up by one tier.
- If F5C went to 11.0, why not F8E?
- J7E should not remain on 11.0. It is day and night difference to J7D, PL5B is a better missile over all than the Magic 1 (PL7), not to mention the chassis is absolutely one of the best in the game.
- J35XS, which is a good comparison to the J7E, should go down to 11.0. It straight up does not have RWR and with a good but worse chassis than the J7E.
- F104 ASA is at 12.0. Seriously, it does not make a good competition to the tornado ADV. 4 Aim9L does not justify its BR.
- Mirage 2000D. So Kfir C.2 is justified at 11.7 but Mirage2KD has to go to 12.3? That thing is 12.0 at best, magic 2 is not the entire world.
- Now that F5A and F5C is at the same BR, F5A is essentially pointless.
- I still think we need massive decompression over the top tier, it is essentially intact, no way you can fight Aim120 with Aim7.
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I think there are still a fair few issues with these changes.
Mig-29G 13.0, same BR as F-16ADF and other F-16’s??? Mig-29G has R-73, and HMD.
Gripen A also 13.0 same BR as ADF and other F-16’s. Gripen has AIM-9M and HMD aswell.
F-15 also 13.0 same BR as ADF and other F-16’s? F-16 is a better airframe (my opinion) but like the AIM-9M’s make such a big difference that I feel F-15’s with IRCCM missiles should be atleast .3 higher than the non IRCCM carrying F-16’s.
F-5C and F-5E same BR??? The F-5E is just better.
I havent even looked through the whole thing yet sooo ima keep looking and see whatever weird changes I find.
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All right. Now J35XS have to avoid AIM-54 with RWR’s absence and 12 countermeasures, fight MIG-23MLs with an enchanted plane that loses its energy in one turn, and meet sarh missiles without bvr missiles.
I think it will be very thrilling and fun to play one game while playing J35XS.
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developers completely forgot how impactful IRCCM missiles are apparently
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Still compressed like absolute hell baby, mere 0.7 does not solve everything. They effectively decompressed all the way up to the original 11.3, but not anything afterwards.
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Honestly you guys remember the time in WW2 bracket where 100hp difference or plane with a slightly better gun can justify for a BR?
Now look at 10.0+, and you would realize exactly how insanely compressed it is still.
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J35XS to 11.3 while F-5E only 11.0? That’s even more insane than the initial proposal.
and the whole 13.7 maximum BR increase is only about preparing for new batch of 13.0-13.3 premium planes, nothing else. Couldn’t exactly slot FOX-3 equipped premiums into 12.7 with old maximum. Too bad that yet again the demands of accounting department will directly lead to crippling balance problems.
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Setting aside a few things, nice changes, in general! Specially the stock weapons.
Now on another topic; when can we expect a similar (or even more drastic) decompression for ground? Compression there is extreme.
This post is specifically targeted towards the high tiers, but the truth is the whole ground node is too compressed.
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Looks like the 104S Will still be painful to play
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HMDs even work? I tried radar lock with them and they’re completely dysfunctional.
Mig-29 12.7, uFo-16A 12.7 seems fair
It’s so weird. We, on .ru forum, are forbidden by the rules to make such topics. And here on the .com forum - it is possible. What’s the inequality?
It’s funny, by the way. They broke the whole balance completely, I hope they undo their changes
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But 16AJ/ADF at 13.0
And Grippen too. With 9M and HMD
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U realise that in squadron battle basically every plane for 10.3 br disappeared and u still have strelas and york to cope with…
MiG-29G with R-27ER and R-73 at the same BR as the ADF seems balance bro
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Also - as a French main it is painful to bring this up
Mirage 2000C series should be raised to 12.7, if I am being honest.
Along with F14A.
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